automated futures trading. interested in additional capital.

Discussion in 'Journals' started by rtw, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. Chyu

    Chyu

    In my opinion, automatic trading is an interesting thing, but I liked the manual mode many times more.
     
    #11     Jun 24, 2020
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  2. rtw

    rtw

    this week that just ended was absolutely marvelous.


    stupid tradestation reports took me a lot of time to strip of all my personal information, otherwise i would have shared this week's worth of trades at 16:50 etyl.


    anyway, imbecility was rampant sunday through wednesday and all kind of crap was bought markedly higher. there were great opportunities to profit from the mnq contract being bought higher up to infinity:


    Buy 30-Aug-20 19: Buy $12,019.75 $0.00 (ignore this useless number in all entry lines, ts reports it as - roll over pips - ¿?) 8 (number of contracts)
    Sell 31-Aug-20 07: BreakEven Stop $12,019.75 $0.00 (this is the gross profit for every exit line)
    Buy 31-Aug-20 08: Buy $12,028.50 $0.00 8
    Sell 31-Aug-20 10: BreakEven Stop $12,028.50 $0.00
    Buy 31-Aug-20 10: Buy $12,025.75 $0.00 8
    Sell 01-Sep-20 08: Sell $12,137.50 $1,788.00
    Buy 01-Sep-20 09: Buy $12,240.25 $0.00 8
    Sell 01-Sep-20 11: Sell $12,209.25 ($496.00)
    Buy 01-Sep-20 14: Buy $12,270.50 $0.00 8
    Sell 02-Sep-20 08: Sell $12,398.75 $2,052.00
    Buy 02-Sep-20 11: Buy $12,289.50 $0.00 8
    Sell 03-Sep-20 02: Sell $12,356.75 $1,076.00
    Sell Short 03-Sep-20 08: Short $12,215.50 $0.00 8
    Buy to Cover 03-Sep-20 09: Cover $11,993.50 $3,552.00
    Sell Short 03-Sep-20 10: Short $11,883.25 $0.00 8
    Buy to Cover 03-Sep-20 10: Cover $11,825.50 $924.00
    Sell Short 03-Sep-20 11: Short $11,844.25 $0.00 8
    Buy to Cover 03-Sep-20 12: Cover $11,811.50 $524.00
    Buy 03-Sep-20 12: Buy $11,816.50 $0.00 8
    Sell 03-Sep-20 13: Sell $11,790.50 ($416.00)
    Sell Short 03-Sep-20 14: Short $11,732.75 $0.00 8
    Buy to Cover 03-Sep-20 14: BreakEven Stop $11,732.75 $0.00
    Sell Short 03-Sep-20 14: Short $11,696.00 $0.00 8
    Buy to Cover 03-Sep-20 14: Cover $11,735.25 ($628.00)


    i'm sure all the elite traders in these fora were able to profit from prices being made to trend up until wednesday and then from prices being made to trend down thursday and friday like i did.


    the slippage of trading 8 mnq contracts automated with market orders is quite bad, so after yesterday's regular session i decided to trade only 6 mnq contracts automated, except for some trades i placed by hand where i could use limit orders.


    Sell 03-Sep-20 18: MNQU20 $11,675.41 0.00 8
    Buy 03-Sep-20 21: MNQU20 $11,676.81 ($22.50)
    Sell 03-Sep-20 22: MNQU20 $11,643.75 0.00 8
    Buy 03-Sep-20 22: MNQU20 $11,638.25 $88.00
    Sell 03-Sep-20 23: MNQU20 $11,597.09 0.00 8
    Buy 04-Sep-20 00: MNQU20 $11,671.38 ($1,188.50)
    Buy 04-Sep-20 01: MNQU20 $11,694.42 0.00 6
    Sell 04-Sep-20 07: MNQU20 $11,691.21 ($38.50)
    Sell 04-Sep-20 07: MNQU20 $11,636.88 0.00 6
    Buy 04-Sep-20 08: MNQU20 $11,714.29 ($929.00)
    Buy 04-Sep-20 08: MNQU20 $11,713.00 0.00 6
    Sell 04-Sep-20 09: MNQU20 $11,713.29 $3.50
    Sell 04-Sep-20 09: MNQU20 $11,633.29 0.00 6
    Buy 04-Sep-20 09: MNQU20 $11,634.00 ($8.50)
    Sell 04-Sep-20 09: MNQU20 $11,603.58 0.00 6
    Buy 04-Sep-20 10: MNQU20 $11,600.38 $38.50
    Sell 04-Sep-20 10: MNQU20 $11,458.38 0.00 6
    Buy 04-Sep-20 10: MNQU20 $11,458.83 ($5.50)
    Sell 04-Sep-20 10: MNQU20 $11,466.79 0.00 6
    Buy 04-Sep-20 10: MNQU20 $11,197.25 $3,234.50
    Sell 04-Sep-20 11: MNQU20 $11,263.00 0.00 6
    Buy 04-Sep-20 11: MNQU20 $11,277.75 ($177.00)
    Buy 04-Sep-20 11: MNQU20 $11,388.17 0.00 6
    Sell 04-Sep-20 12: MNQU20 $11,437.25 $589.00
    Buy 04-Sep-20 12: MNQU20 $11,527.33 0.00 6
    Sell 04-Sep-20 12: MNQU20 $11,535.17 $94.00
    Buy 04-Sep-20 12: MNQU20 $11,489.00 0.00 6
    Sell 04-Sep-20 12: MNQU20 $11,511.71 $272.50
    Buy 04-Sep-20 12: MNQU20 $11,489.00 0.00 2
    Sell 04-Sep-20 13: MNQU20 $11,479.53 ($37.88)
    Buy 04-Sep-20 12: MNQU20 $11,513.50 0.00 6
    Sell 04-Sep-20 13: MNQU20 $11,479.53 ($407.63)
    Buy 04-Sep-20 13: MNQU20 $11,432.25 0.00 8
    Sell 04-Sep-20 13: MNQU20 $11,425.56 ($107.00)
    Buy 04-Sep-20 13: MNQU20 $11,472.67 0.00 6
    Sell 04-Sep-20 15: MNQU20 $11,681.33 $2,504.00



    i'm still interested in securing access to additional capital in order to be able to trade larger positions as well as other futures contracts. i will continue to search for legitimate proprietary trading institutions.


    and all the flaming idiots are very welcome to continue posting on this thread. i will try my best to continue conciliating all the moronic insinuations and criticisms, giving away everything i know and trying to keep all the suckers motivated like i have done since i started this thread. jajaja.
     
    #12     Sep 4, 2020
  3. bone

    bone

    To be fair, they have a very good point about backtesting. It’s valid. Same for SIM trading. Same for such a brief sampling period.

    If you are trading MNQ live, as you stated in your OP - do it for several months before seeking external funding.

     
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    #13     Sep 4, 2020
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  4. bone

    bone

    Just as an informational notice, there’s a great deal of regulatory risk associated with making performance representations and soliciting investment funds from the general public on an Internet forum.

    Elite Trader is incorporated in the US, and the traded instruments discussed by the OP are regulated by the US CFTC.
     
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    #14     Sep 4, 2020
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    I don't believe you. With the volume flowing through the MNQ, the slippage is minimal compared to the out-sized gains. So minimal in comparison that if you were making that money for real, you would not be complaining about it. Really? Going from 8 contracts to 6 makes all the difference in your world?

    Incredible.
     
    #15     Sep 4, 2020
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  6. rtw

    rtw


    i addressed this sponsor's first comment privately with evidence and further information.


    and just as a clarification, i'm not offering anything to the public. highly active trading systems like the ones i have developed always have a maximum number of contracts - shares one can operate with. this maximum number is dictated by liquidity, slippage and risk, and this is never infinitely large so it would make no sense at all to try and amass more trading capital than what would generate the best possible consistent returns. i'm looking for one legitimate proprietary trading institution, or alternatively, one single investor with whom to enter into a legally binding collaborative venture following all relevant rules and regulations.
     
    #16     Sep 5, 2020
  7. bone

    bone

    Yeah there was ZERO “evidence and further information” addressed or provided by you to me privately as you just stated. That’s a lie and a complete fabrication on your part.

    And it is illegal for you to solicit for one investor or investors on a public forum in the United States.

    You are violating multiple US laws regarding commodities investor solicitation, investor financial pre-qualifications and the audited veracity of the performance representations you are making.

     
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    #17     Sep 5, 2020
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  8. _terminus_

    _terminus_

    I've only been autotrading MNQ since November 2019 and slippage has always been negligible.

     
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    #18     Sep 5, 2020
  9. rtw

    rtw


    this is hilarious.


    this sponsor has gone from - you don't have the goods. you need a track record of months before you can solicit external funding. - to - you should only trade your own funds. - to - it is illegal to solicit funds from the public. -. jaja.

    i do have the goods. i have the track record and will continue to trade and scale my systems as efficiently as is possible. i would have no problem putting my systems under any evaluations or trial periods necessary (with legitimate proprietary trading firms that is) in order to secure access to additional trading capital. and if posting a thread like this in this forum was illegal, i think the people that actually recommended that i did this should have known.


    it's all part of pursuing ambitious objectives, so it's all good, it's ok.
     
    #19     Sep 5, 2020
  10. rtw

    rtw


    this is quite interesting. congratulations on having what must be a profitable automated trading system.

    now, slippage when trading 1 or 2 mnq contracts automated is a non factor. trading 8 contracts with multiple round trips per day is very different, specially when taking into consideration the price action that was observed this past week.

    ¿what kind of system are you trading? ¿which platform do you use? ¿how many contracts and trades does your systems take per day? if you want your post to be helpful to the hopeful you would do well to disclose as much information as you can.
     
    #20     Sep 5, 2020