I never said that everything the gov and media says is a lie. I merely pointed out that the foundation of your argument is the authority of the source from which you get your info, and that source is not trustworthy. It is incredibly manipulative and heavily invested in controlling public perception. As far as the 9/11 issue, you clim to assert rational thinking, but PHYSICS and COMMON SENSE punch hundreds of holes in the official government report and all the "accidental" deaths of so many people who were key outspoken witnesses about what they saw that day. Your limited knowledge of vehicle systems doesn't mean anything in relation to the capabilities of a deep black gov sub agency or contractor with virtually unlimited funding. We invented nuclear weapons over 70 years ago. Are those still the most advanced weapons we have? The majority of people would say so, but it's not likely, and not true. I bring this up to emphasize that taking what is given to us at face value is naive at best. And as far as government competence vs incompetence.... hmmm. This is a disinfo tactic. Governments by their very nature of being public admin systems that are in practice fiscally unaccountable to their constituents are extremely inefficient. However, governments have always sponsored agencies/projects that can afford to pay the most (geniuses work for govs and gov contractors bc they get to play with the special toys that no one else on Earth gets to play with), hire the best, spend the most AND terminate threats to the program with extreme prejudice. Add redundant compartmentalization to the mix and you have the history of the US defence establishment since the end of WW2. Go and watch Eisenhowers farewell address on youtube. I guess he was a conspiracy theorist right? Was Andrew Jackson also a kook? How about JFK? What crazy bastards those Presidents were for standing up to organized criminal elements within their own governments.
OK, I understand. You know nothing about electrical engineering or civil engineering or physics, but try to tell me I'm an idiot, haven't I heard of "Boston brakes" and "jumbo jet wngine's". And "PHYSICS and COMMON SENSE" contradict the 9/11 report. Then when it turns out I do in fact know a good deal about such things you tell me my "limited" knowledge (again, what are your engineering degrees in? What physics courses have you taken? My 5 year old told me common sense says the earth is flat, after all, balls don't roll South do they?) doesn't mean anything, the gubmnt can do anything. Classic. Let me introduce you to a logical fallacy, something that you'll learn about if you ever take an undergrad critical thinking course, which I highly recommend, by the way. It goes something like this. A dog has 4 legs. This creature I see has 4 legs. Therefore this creature must be a dog. Or said another way, U.S. jets can fire missiles at an airliner and cause it to crash. An airliner crashed. Therefore a U.S. jet must have fired a missile to cause the crash. Of course that would be irrational right, you'd end up labeling a cow as a dog! Or try this. The government has the capability to cause a car to crash. A car crashed. Therefore the government caused the car to crash. Starting to see the pattern here? How about we take a different tack here. Do you know what a Van Eck monitor is. How about TEMPEST? Google it. The government can track you by the electronic signals of the computer on which you're typing your reply to this. And you've clearly established that they can and will easily kill anyone who crosses them, apparently despite the fact that they could just have easily put them in prison for the rest of their life and have no motive to engage in such a complex and high risk operation. I have information as a former "shill or gov contractor" that they may be closinging in on you at this very moment. So you need to be afraid Charlie, be very afraid. But don't worry, I have a solution. A Faraday Cage. Google it. If well designed by a competent electrical engineer, such a device will block the compromising radiation and you will once again be temporarily safe from the evil government. I can enclose your entire trailer with an impervious Faraday Cage for the low low price of just $100,000. I know that's more than the trailer itself is worth, but I ask you, how much is a trailer that was just blown up by a TOW launched from a black helicopter worth? And what value your life? Lucky for you, despite my "limited" knowledge of electrical engineering I have actually built Faraday Cages before and can whip one up before they can get to you. Please private message me as soon as possible so we can get started before they get there. If you really believe even half of what you post, you can't possibly refuse this offer.
What you know about physics wouldn't fill the back of a matchbook. Hey Bill Nye; how do you define, "advanced weapons?" bc we've yet to devise anything with greater output than thermonuclear. Maybe he was hit with a railgun. Yeah, interesting. Yeah, yeah, we NOW have shit that's even more powerful than what powers the stars! You make a compelling argument. Time for our physics lesson. Start with the Coulomb barrier. And none of this muon-physics. C'mon Bro. I'll admit it was only undergrad, but I am a quick-study.
Yeah you're a smart guy but that's nothing special around here is it? I'm smart too. Alot of the stuff you put in that post doesn't apply to our conversation. A logical fallacy this isn't, my friend. The science on the twin towers and building 7 is incontrovertible. Really, the bedrock of understanding that will even allow someone to conceptualize the totality of the actual real life control system that operates on Earth requires a slight departure from even the most elite of educations. The Universe is a perfext system otherwise we would all dissociate into random particles and cease to exist. But we all share collective memories and observe common natural laws. So there is a link between spirituality and science, yet the scientific knowledge common amongst the people falls far short of the where it needs to be to explain most of what's happening. Anyone who has really looked at the 9/11 event in detail and spent time looking at various sources and sifting through the misinfo, disinfo and red herrings should come to the conclusion that the government is concealing critical info. On that basis alone i have to call you out, since you claim to be an engineer. So the architects and engineers for 9/11 are a bunch of wackjobs who dont know their professions? The professors who have taught the science behind the event and then been summarily fired don't jnow their science? Perhaps politics and social manipulation was involved? Nah! Too farfetched! This is going nowhere. We should stop. The indoctrination and brainwashing is too deep. You're a typical example, so it's to be expected. I'm sure you also believe in the jfk lone gunman theory. You probably think voting actually makes a difference (Trump might actually be for real. Jury is still out on that one). Our elected officials have our best interests at heart. Assad was killing his own people and that's why we went into Syria. Russia invaded Ukraine and that's why we support the new Ukrainian gov, Nuland was just reacting to Putin's evil machinations! The corporations and globalist entities that give hundreds of millions to US politicians don't expect anything in return at all! They fund campaigns because it's their civic duty! Saddam had weapons of mass destruction! The Iraqis attacked us on 9/11! It's just a COINCIDENCE that opium production in Afghanistan increased TENFOLD after US military took over poppy fields from Taliban. None of the G7 spy satellites saw anything when those flights disappeared! No one could have aeen this recession coming! No one! I'm ranting. I suppose my point is that you should check your sources of information. You wouldnt trade based on bullshit data, so stop taking your geopolitical cues from intellectually bankrupt sources. Networks have been caught lying and carrying water for the fov (5th column) time and time again. To ignore the daily deluge of corruption, lies, cheating, stealing and plain evil requires tunnel vision and or willful ignorance and heavy doses of medication and a blanketing apathy-inducing lifestyle, both of which are in full effect on steroids in the West. Like I said. Let's agree to disagree. The CIA declassified their 1960's and 1970's operations. You should take a look. It will be good for you. They were doing shit back then that you would call nonense on today, but it happened. And they've told EVERYONE about it but that doesn't matter. The average person has a sheep mentality. Humans are social animals that crave inclusion and harmony, even at the cost of justice and transparency. I don't see how you can be an engineer and not find it odd that the massive twin towers disintegrated into fine dust leaving almost no rubble. Building collapse vs. Demolition and you choose collapse. YOUR 5 yr old could look at examples of the two aforementioned scenarios and would correctly identify the twin towers as a demolition. Meanwhile you sit here and make an effort to discredit me as a confused person because I've voiced an uncomfortable truth. Of all people who should be willing to embrace truth, no matter the sensitivities, i would expect a trader to be the most inclined to transparency. Your judgement is clouded by emotions and sentiment. Maybe you need to do some reading on the history of governments? They are like parasites. If not kept in check, they grow out of control and kill the host, which also kills them. Insatiable greed and desire to consume! It's pathological, but based on natural principles. Much like the fiat debt-based compound interest make-work economy that replaced the gold standard that replaced the feudal system. Debt based on compound interest reaches a mathematical conclusion of parabolic growth and unpayable interest, to say nothing of the sci-fi debt numbers. It's DESIGNED to blow up. Keynes was a fucking loonie tunes arsonist. Just a guy but his system was useful for covertly vacuuming the wealth of the masses via currency inflation. Blah blah blah.... Some guys with boxcutters evaded the most sophisticated air defenses on the planet (why stand down?) and made manual maneuvers in jumbo jets that are actually impossible without computer guided systems. The towers turned to dust but the passports were left in tact. It's just pathetic dude...
Yeah you're a smart guy but that's nothing special around here is it? I'm smart too. Alot of the stuff you put in that post doesn't apply to our conversation. A logical fallacy this isn't, my friend. The science on the twin towers and building 7 is incontrovertible. Really, the bedrock of understanding that will even allow someone to conceptualize the totality of the actual real life control system that operates on Earth requires a slight departure from even the most elite of educations. The Universe is a perfext system otherwise we would all dissociate into random particles and cease to exist. But we all share collective memories and observe common natural laws. So there is a link between spirituality and science, yet the scientific knowledge common amongst the people falls far short of the where it needs to be to explain most of what's happening. Anyone who has really looked at the 9/11 event in detail and spent time looking at various sources and sifting through the misinfo, disinfo and red herrings should come to the conclusion that the government is concealing critical info. On that basis alone i have to call you out, since you claim to be an engineer. So the architects and engineers for 9/11 are a bunch of wackjobs who dont know their professions? The professors who have taught the science behind the event and then been summarily fired don't jnow their science? Perhaps politics and social manipulation was involved? Nah! Too farfetched! This is going nowhere. We should stop. The indoctrination and brainwashing is too deep. You're a typical example, so it's to be expected. I'm sure you also believe in the jfk lone gunman theory. You probably think voting actually makes a difference (Trump might actually be for real. Jury is still out on that one). Our elected officials have our best interests at heart. Assad was killing his own people and that's why we went into Syria. Russia invaded Ukraine and that's why we support the new Ukrainian gov, Nuland was just reacting to Putin's evil machinations! The corporations and globalist entities that give hundreds of millions to US politicians don't expect anything in return at all! They fund campaigns because it's their civic duty! Saddam had weapons of mass destruction! The Iraqis attacked us on 9/11! It's just a COINCIDENCE that opium production in Afghanistan increased TENFOLD after US military took over poppy fields from Taliban. None of the G7 spy satellites saw anything when those flights disappeared! No one could have aeen this recession coming! No one! I'm ranting. I suppose my point is that you should check your sources of information. You wouldnt trade based on bullshit data, so stop taking your geopolitical cues from intellectually bankrupt sources. Networks have been caught lying and carrying water for the fov (5th column) time and time again. To ignore the daily deluge of corruption, lies, cheating, stealing and plain evil requires tunnel vision and or willful ignorance and heavy doses of medication and a blanketing apathy-inducing lifestyle, both of which are in full effect on steroids in the West. Like I said. Let's agree to disagree. The CIA declassified their 1960's and 1970's operations. You should take a look. It will be good for you. They were doing shit back then that you would call nonense on today, but it happened. And they've told EVERYONE about it but that doesn't matter. The average person has a sheep mentality. Humans are social animals that crave inclusion and harmony, even at the cost of justice and transparency. I don't see how you can be an engineer and not find it odd that the massive twin towers disintegrated into fine dust leaving almost no rubble. Building collapse vs. Demolition and you choose collapse. YOUR 5 yr old could look at examples of the two aforementioned scenarios and would correctly identify the twin towers as a demolition. Meanwhile you sit here and make an effort to discredit me as a confused person because I've voiced an uncomfortable truth. Of all people who should be willing to embrace truth, no matter the sensitivities, i would expect a trader to be the most inclined to transparency. Your judgement is clouded by emotions and sentiment. Maybe you need to do some reading on the history of governments? They are like parasites. If not kept in check, they grow out of control and kill the host, which also kills them. Insatiable greed and desire to consume! It's pathological, but based on natural principles. Much like the fiat debt-based compound interest make-work economy that replaced the gold standard that replaced the feudal system. Debt based on compound interest reaches a mathematical conclusion of parabolic growth and unpayable interest, to say nothing of the sci-fi debt numbers. It's DESIGNED to blow up. Keynes was a fucking loonie tunes arsonist. Just a guy but his system was useful for covertly vacuuming the wealth of the masses via currency inflation. Blah blah blah.... Some guys with boxcutters evaded the most sophisticated air defenses on the planet (why stand down?) and made manual maneuvers in jumbo jets that are actually impossible without computer guided systems. The towers turned to dust but the passports were left in tact. It's just pathetic dude...
haha a Truther. THE IQ test. Do we really need duplicates? Stuxnet making you post everything twice, Bro?
They're getting closer, seriously. You need that Faraday Cage, that's the capital T TRUTH! Don't you value your trailer? Your life at least? Why do you ignore the section of my reply when I talk to you in your language? Did I outcrazy crazy? And how are we talking about twin tower collapses when this all started with your assertion that the government can take control of a car and make it crash, Aubrey McClendon died in a car crash, ergo the government took control of Aubrey McClendon's car and caused it to crash. Even though he was on his way to prison for a long time, at the hands of that same government. Even though there was no rational reason to engage in such a high risk operation. Sans even a shred evidence to support said assertion.
What? WHAT? Hahahahaha.... I never said that the weapons today were more powerful. Again, putting words in my mouth. I'm pointing out that warfare has obviously advanced in many ways since the 1940's, but you will have no clue where it has gotten to because it's all need to know basis and YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW. The frustrating part is that if you were to be exposed to the info about modern day weapons you would dismiss it as conspiracy theory. Any sufficiently advanced technology seems like magic.(HAARP, weather, nano, satellite vio-feedback, list goes on). What would they make of a Honda Accord back in the horse and buggy days? Weapons are based on tech advancement. Texh advances at an accelerating rate evidenced by rate of computing power and semiconductor innovation. You guys are like an over-the-hill ECW tag team and I'm the next generation WWF world champ. And i haven't watched wrestling for about 20 years but it's the best analogy i can come up with after a bunch of beers. Eventually, you will be embarrassed to have actually believed these things you are saying. It's ok, we're all human, and God WILL have mercy on your soul.
Dude. McClendon's last quote was that he was innocent ans planned to fight the charges and clear his name. Let's take this step by step now , so you can follow. McClendon played a key and leading role in the establishment of the fracking industry in the US. Much of what he did wasn't totally above-board, typical of derivative and follow-on industries. The economic viability of fracking doesn't work when oil falls below a certain price, so it's not a ROBUST method of extraction. Yet, since we are near the end game of the current financial paradigm and blowing bubbles every chance we get since '99, fracking was being used to prop up valuations and future cash flow expectations. so this McClendon and Co had to ignore alot of fiduciary duty type considerations. So when oil comes down and the fracking sub industry begins to unravel, he is the most likely scapegoat. But he SAID he wasn't going down without a fight, on a CONSPIRACY charge. Now, WHO do you think this BILLIONAIRE was conspiring with to make all this shit happen? His f'ing roughnecks and wellhead operators? No. Other powerful people, many more powerful than him. Look at the goddamned PE money that was backing him. About $15billion on paper on the surface for STARTERS. And that's REAL money investment, not valuation or collateralized credit. Who's backing that money? Oh look. A Raymond. Son of former Exxon CEO Lee Raymond. Exxon Mobil aka former Standard Oil aka British East India Company aka the Establishment. The oil game is as close as it gets to the source of global events. Oil, arms and banking. It's the information age. The stuff is floating around out there for everyone to read. Way back in the days you had to read the local paper. Now you can reas every local paper on Earth, and then some. You can also go back and look at almost everything that was written down and recorded throughout mosern history. The internet is a disruptive technology and it is currently disrupting the Status Quo monopoly control over the freedom of the common man. Dinosaurs become extinct, as they should.