Attn: Atheist...read the last line of the first post...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OPTIONAL777, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. i don't see the validity of your analogy.

    if your brain was separated from you you would lose your "self" or identity because self resides in the brain..

    where does god reside
     
    #71     Nov 22, 2009
  2. All analogies have their limits...

    Applying any analogies of things to God, will yield the type of confusion you have when you try to apply that to God.

    "where does God reside"

    At all places in all times and in no particular place at no particular time.

    The problem you are having is common, when God is analyzed from partial point of view.

    You think of residing at a particular place at a particular time that is separate from another place and time, when God resides at all places and no particular place continuously with no starting or ending time.

    Relativistic logic will forever fail in any understanding of the nature of God...

    God is absolute...physical relativism simply cannot grasp the concept of God who exists without any relationship to something separate from God.


     
    #72     Nov 22, 2009
  3. jem

    jem

    nice try. But you miss the point. There is a universe.

    So you know that the universe was not created?

    If not, you do not know there was not a creator.

    Therefore you can not rationally claim to be an atheist.

    I know there are asswipe atheists on this thread but I did not think you were one of them.
     
    #73     Nov 22, 2009
  4. jem

    jem

    I will address your first two points - you are such a waste of time I will let the other points pass.

    Stu said

    It's not *may be* jem, it's *is*.

    Jem's - more ignorance from Stu.
    Depending on how you define evolution in may or may not be a solid theory.

    Stu said =
    .....and yet you made this statement which "can not be proved.".....
    Did you lie intentionally or is it that you just don't have the capacity to understand?

    Jem's reply

    Stu is so emotional he does not get it. .

    I say I believe there is a God.
    (this is an absolutely true statement - I do believe there is a God. )

    Asswipe atheists say there is no God.
    (a statement which is insane because you have no way to prove there was not Creator of the universe.)
     
    #74     Nov 22, 2009
  5. Mav88

    Mav88

    and asswipe theists keep creating false choices

    1) Universe created by deity, not a the personal made up god of whatever religion they have

    2) Natural creation may not have needed an intelligent cause, but in any event assigning it to god simply changes the question to what created god

    .... among many others.
     
    #75     Nov 22, 2009
  6. Mav88

    Mav88

    The problem with theists is that they are like pot smokers, there is no reality check, they just make shit up.

    Any personal skydaddy god who is watching you take a dump must bear a relation to space and time or else the act of watching you shit makes no sense. Complete made up rubbish to say the above.

    Part of pseudo-science cultish behavior: make some shit up that sounds half-assed like science, just enough to fool yourself and some other dumb ones. Funny though how after trashing science they then use it for credibility.
     
    #76     Nov 22, 2009
  7. Sorry that anything beyond a two dimensional concept doesn't suit you...

     
    #77     Nov 22, 2009
  8. Mav88

    Mav88

    Another symptom, when they don't understand something they claim another pseudo-scientific concept supports them.

    Time is one dimensional, sorry you lack the sophistication to know that.
     
    #78     Nov 22, 2009
  9. jem

    jem

    I am not sure why you seem confused.

    I am not forcing you to make any choices.

    It is only the asswipes who make statements which can not be proven.

    i agree with you - You are correct Natural creation may not have needed an intelligent cause. I never said you have to believe it did.
     
    #79     Nov 22, 2009
  10. Mav88

    Mav88

    oh, ok I guess we are alike then.

    the personal god concept cannot be proven, I agree with you, we should just dispense with the idea
     
    #80     Nov 22, 2009