i would assume that you know .. i'm not trading vix options.. but VIXY options..the etf.. i'm not trading the dec volatility directly like in a risk reversal in the vix options.. i'm leveraging roll cost in my favor.. and i'm breaking the wing so it almost has no cost to me.. even if vol does spike for a while.. the burning due to roll cost could still eventually put the fly in favor <a target='_blank' title='ImageShack - Image And Video Hosting' href='http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/vixyvsvix.png/'><img src='http://imageshack.us/a/img7/2579/vixyvsvix.png' border='0'/></a><br>Uploaded with <a target='_blank' href='http://imageshack.us'>ImageShack.us</a>
F me. I am out of the condor at a dime gain and in the 615/635/655 put fly at 8.00 (7.85 mid). All in, journal position. Too much upside here to be neutral to 30. No meaningful change in perf. as the comms ate the gain.
VIXY is thirty cents over Dec and 105 over Nov. Sure, there is a edge to the roll, and it's just enough to convince one to get stupid big in the trade. My point is that you're not the first to think about it and it's a pretty crowded trade.
680/700/730 and the 640/660/685 i'm out of .. total cost 6.02 out at 2.60....sold for a 3.42 cent loss.. still in the 630/645/665 in other account... which looks good here.. realize.. i only talking 1 of each of these.. this isn't ship it trading.. hah
i never claimed to be original... i've got some more original stuff i can show you though haha.. how are you putting the math together to get to vixy is trading at a premium to dec.. ... how are you mathing that up? your still speculating that the term structure won't change in whatever your math is.. i'd love to know the math... roll cost is changing thing..
I'd love to be able to remember what everyone is referring to instead of going back through the thread to figure it out..