atticus' "ship it" vol trading journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by atticus, Sep 5, 2012.

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  1. any of you guys putting this fly on mind telling me what brokerage you use? mine charge 3 transactions of 6.95 each transaction to put on a fly..
     
    #741     Oct 11, 2012
  2. Doobs789

    Doobs789

    Which do you use? What is your rate per contract?
     
    #742     Oct 11, 2012
  3. Doobs789

    Doobs789

    Put on the 05/30/55 AAPL fly for 8.75

    Filled in the 100-wide GOOG fly at 42.70 (irons)
     
    #743     Oct 11, 2012
  4. Many of us use IB and pay $2 per contract per fly
     
    #744     Oct 11, 2012
  5. First post but have lurked around ET the pass couple years. Great thread -thanks Atticus and the rest of you who post on it.
     
    #745     Oct 11, 2012
  6. wow, that's a whole lot more reasonable then mine is trying to charge.

    i was mainly just curious, i cant change brokerage due to my job
     
    #746     Oct 11, 2012
  7. Doobs789

    Doobs789

    Can you call them and try to negotiate your commissions?
     
    #747     Oct 11, 2012
  8. unfortunately not, ive already tried :D guess ill just stay out of the fly game for now.
     
    #748     Oct 11, 2012
  9. ummm... why.. you just have to disclose everything?.. you have your series 7 and are with a broker? i thought you could there was just alot of tape... most brokerages you lose tons of edge because of commissions.. its already hard enough to deal with the wide bid/ask spread of the three legs

    think about it.. say your gonna day trade a oct 12 fly for tommorrow.. your assuming aapl will go up.. (at this point i'm not a believer) but whatever..
    630/640/650 no need to break a wing will only save you cents.. this right now at the close was priced at 2.15 .. 215 dollar investment..say you have the typical ticket fee and .75 cent to a dollar per leg charge.. around 13 bucks!! thats 26 round trip.. the fly has to trade up to 2.41 for you to break even.. 12 percent.. forget about that! with IB.. your break even is only 5 bucks away a round trip! thats 2.3 percent.. i used that specific fly because of the low price to show you how wide the spread gets between brokers as you go down in the price of the fly.. obviously a fly you put on for 30 bucks on a mastercard trade isn't going to hurt as much percentage wise.. but either way.. why fight more current! it all adds up!
     
    #749     Oct 11, 2012
  10. All my thoughts exactly. and yes I have my 7 and I am with a broker. And I have asked to have my accounts elsewhere and I can't. I actually don't know flys completely well yet but I have been following this journal and doing a lot of paper trades. But alas I will have to forgo this strategy for now until I can figure something else out.
     
    #750     Oct 11, 2012
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