Atkins Article

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Toonces, Feb 10, 2004.

  1. Hostile? Hardly... Your misunderstanding isn't my concern, either is your need for proof. Why would you refute a statement you didn't make, nor necessarily agree with?

    Yes, cardiomyopathy can have a viral pathology, but it's far more likely that the cause was his CHF -- "they" would lead the public to believe that the cause was viral, but who knows? It very well may be viral, but the most likely scenario is that it was related to his CHF.

    riskarb
     
    #11     Feb 10, 2004
  2. Cardiomyopathy may also occur as a complication associated with certain anthracycline-antibiotic chemotherapeutics, such as Adriamycin.

    riskarb
     
    #12     Feb 10, 2004
  3. yep.

    no South Beach BS for me either. :)
     
    #13     Feb 10, 2004
  4. LOL
     
    #14     Feb 10, 2004
  5. Today's News
    Atkins-Blasting 'Physicians' Committee is a Front Group for PETA

    WASHINGTON, Feb. 10 /PRNewswire/ -- The late Dr. Robert Atkins is being
    smeared for his alleged obesity at the time of his death, by a phony doctors
    organization that has been exposed as a front group for People for the Ethical
    Treatment of Animals (PETA) and has been censured by the American Medical
    Association (AMA). The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)
    has taken in over $1 million from PETA and the animal rights movement. PCRM
    and PETA also share office space, board members, and staff.
    The AMA has formally censured PCRM in the past, calling its
    recommendations "irresponsible" and "potentially dangerous to the health and
    welfare of Americans." The AMA has also called PCRM a "fringe organization"
    that uses "unethical tactics" and is "interested in perverting medical
    science."
    PCRM's attacks on diets including meat, fish and dairy foods, and its
    constant demands for a vegetarian America are rooted in an animal-rights
    philosophy.
    The facts on the late Dr. Robert Atkins:

    (1) Dr. Stuart Trager MD, chairman of the Atkins Physicians Council, told
    the Wall Street Journal that Atkins' heart disease stemmed from
    cardiomyopathy, a condition that was thought to result from a viral
    infection. Atkins' weight was due to bloating and water-retention
    associated with his condition, and the time he spent in a coma after
    his head injury.
    (2) Trager's own release this morning reads in part: "Due to water
    retention ... [Atkins] had a weight that varied between 180 and 195.
    During his coma, as he deteriorated and his major organs failed, fluid
    retention and bloating dramatically distorted his body and left him at
    258 pounds at the time of his death, a documented weight gain of over
    60 pounds."

    The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition supported by
    restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote
    personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.
     
    #15     Feb 10, 2004
  6. yeah right the guy gained like 80 + lbs of water (ONLY)..

    HAHAHAHAHA!

    HOO HOO HOOO!

    OH GOD MY SIDES ARE SPLITTING..




    :p
     
    #16     Feb 10, 2004
  7. Yes, he weighed 258 pounds but it's not widely known that the man was 7'5".

    :)
     
    #17     Feb 10, 2004
  8. Dr Atkins...

    Atkins said his diet "has steak and eggs and lobster, and it's so easy to stay on. There's no reason to go off of it. I've been on it for 36 years.".......His widow admits he did have blockage of the heart arteries.


    Dr Nathan Pritikin...

    In 1957, when he was 40, Pritikin was diagnosed as having heart disease. Faced with a lifetime on drugs and ever-increasing restrictions on his movements, he exhausted the scientific literature and formulated a diet and exercise program to treat his disease. After nine years of trial and error he had cured himself.

    Long before most doctors and scientists were willing to acknowledge that something as simple as diet might be causing serious illnesses, Pritikin had, on his own, created a scientifically sound program to treat them, using food and exercise as medicine. It was a revolutionary departure from current medical thinking.

    For ten years he tested his program on relatives, friends, and friends of friends, and in 1976 he opened the Pritikin Longevity Center in Santa Barbara, California. Its successes against illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, gout, arthritis and other major diseases proved to be even greater than even Pritikin dreamed. Eighty-five percent of those who came to the center with high blood pressure and on medication left with normal blood pressure and no medication; half of adult-onset diabetics on insulin left insulin-free; more than half of those who came to the center already scheduled for heart bypass surgery left never needing the operation. Thousands upon thousands of people who arrived at the center unable to walk even a block without pain left able to walk, even run, for miles at a stretch. The stories became legend.

    But the opening of the center touched off a war between Pritikin and the scientific and medical establishments that would last for much of the next decade. He was the focus of ceaseless attacks by doctors and scientists who criticized him as being everything from a charlatan to an entrepreneur.

    The attacks on Pritikin only served to heighten the controversy and bring his message to a broader audience. Soon, he represented the fault line between those who pushed for prevention of illness and the use of diet as a means of treatment, and those who remained wedded to drugs and surgery as the answers to heart disease and other serious illnesses.

    By 1984, more than 25,000 people had "graduated" from the longevity centers, now located on both coasts. Pritikin had become a best-selling author and a regular guest on leading television and radio talk shows. The Pritikin Program had been celebrated in newspapers and magazines across the country and Pritikin had been asked to testify as an expert witness for the U.S. congress on diet's relationship to health. More importantly, the scientific evidence emerging throughout the '70s and '80s had consistently supported his views on the link between diet and disease.

    The final proof that his program works was his own autopsy which showed his arteries were akin to those of a young man and totally clear of any signs of heart disease.

    So let me see...should I eat butter, prime rib, cheese, and bacon or are fruits, vegetables, and whole grains really better for me?
     
    #19     Feb 11, 2004
  9. ..well if you listen to Axe, DB, TM_, Max or 90% of other morons on this board their answer is "butter, prime rib, cheese, and bacon"

    :)
     
    #20     Feb 11, 2004