Energy, space/time is not nothing. Add an omnipotent dio di tutti dii and you started with 2 somethings and an imaginary friend. ....however, the laws of physics don't allow for that. Yet the laws of physics do allow for a universe to begin without any of it.
Being a science dealing with the logic of quantity, shape and arrangement, they are much more than that!
I thought you might come back along that line, and I was tempted to edit my reply! Anyway, I did not mean to imply that mathematics does not also represent process. I think that's all it represents actually, since "objects" are an abstraction of process.
You've shown that you know less about physics than some children in elementary school do, so why don't you get an education and quit making an ass of yourself by spewing nonsense on ET?
Yes, but as my point with Lucrum, attaching phrases like " that's all it represents" and "it's only a theory" , are unmistakably not true representations of science. Whether it's the science which is mathematics, or the science which is physics, they are obviously much more than that suggests. So why do it? Simply to piggy back in the Deity with science, so God can be a "theory" too, either directly or by inference seems to be the only reason.
You saying that there are no theories in science, evrything is known proven fact? Even when science/scientists label it as a theory? For some maybe, NOT me.
The word "theory" is used in the layman's sense around here, to denigrate, it's true. Edit: I stand by my statement "that's all it represents", as I do believe "objects" are abstractions, snapshots if you will, of process, which is a truer reality. But, here we go into metaphysics, lol. "At home with the Heisenbergs She: I can't find my car keys! He: You probably know too much about their momentum."
Scientists currently believe that about 95% of the universe consists of dark matter and dark energy, which are only hypothetical concepts created in an attempt to reconcile discrepancies between observations and theory. Which means, scientists have a very poor understanding of the structure of the universe and the "universe from nothing" SPECULATION that you mindlessly parrot is nothing more than that. But because you know so little about science, you confuse scientific speculation with established knowledge. In other words, scientists know what they know and what they don't know but you know neither. And you prove it every day.