This from the one who accused someone of treason without even knowing what it meant. Unlike you, I can think for myself. Which means, I don't swallow everything that comes from an expert just because it came from an expert. That's fallacious reasoning that you get sucked into and I don't. Tell me how any human scientist can say that the universe created itself from nothing when they don't even know what 95+% of the universe consists of, or STFU. You can't because you're a loser with a C- brain who can't think for himself.
Like Stephen Hawking who once said the universe would collapse and time would reverse but later retracted it? Therefore, every wild speculation of his is valid, no matter how ridiculous? Oh please. That fact that you're too stupid to realize when "the leading authorities" are speculating and far overreaching is your problem, not anyone else's.
You just can't shake your loser upbringing, can you Gayfly? http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2999240&#post2999240 P.S. Just as I said, you don't have the brainpower to debate this. Tell me how any human scientist can say that the universe created itself from nothing when they don't even know what 95+% of the universe consists of, or STFU.
You couldnât school a shoal of fish. I understand you are very angry because scientists know how much dark energy there is and you think they don't. Remember, the irrational ramblings you've made in links you keep referring to are locked, so they are always going to remain as dumb as when you first made them.
Now you want me to concede the laws of physics are a theory crummie? Gravity is a theory, does that mean you have a problem with Einstein as well as a universe beginning from nothing?
No, I never said the LAWS of physics are a theory, only that the theories are...well...theories and not laws. If based only on what I've heard from you so far, yes.
Anyone who clicks this link can see that I schooled you here: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=2952513#post2952513 So not only are you STUpid, you're a liar. And you didn't even know about dark energy until I schooled you so don't pretend you know what you're talking about.
Wrong. Gravity is not a theory, it's what we call the force of attraction between objects of mass and our attempts to define and quantify it are our THEORIES of gravitation... none of which has gotten it exactly right. Which "laws" of physics allow the universe to be created out of nothing?
âWhen I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics.â - Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics) Tipler, F.J. 1994. The Physics Of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, Preface. -- The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books - a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects.â - Albert Einstein --- Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say âsupernaturalâ) plan.â - Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics) Margenau, H and R.A. Varghese, ed. 1992. Cosmos, Bios, and Theos. La Salle, IL, Open Court, p. 83. --- It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.â âIt now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design.â -Anthony Flew Professor of Philosophy, former atheist, author, and debater --- There is a wide measure of agreement which, on the physical side of science approaches almost unanimity, that the stream of knowledge is heading towards a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine. Mind no longer appears as an accidental intruder into the realm of matter. We are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail mind as the creator and governor of the realm of matterânot of course our individual minds, but the mind in which the atoms out of which our individual minds have grown, exist as thoughts.â - Sir James Jeans knighted mathematician, physicist and astronomer who helped develop our understanding of the evolution of stars, wrote this in his book The Mysterious Universe (Cambridge, 1931). -- 16O has exactly the right nuclear energy level either to prevent all the carbon from turning into oxygen or to facilitate sufficient production of 16O for life. Fred Hoyle, who discovered these coincidences in 1953, concluded that âa superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology.â - Hoyle, Fred. âThe Universe: Past and Present Reflections,â in Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics, 20. (1982), p.16 (for more of these coincidences click here) --- âIf you equate the probability of the birth of a bacteria cell to chance assembly of its atoms, eternity will not suffice to produce one⦠Faced with the enormous sum of lucky draws behind the success of the evolutionary game, one may legitimately wonder to what extent this success is actually written into the fabric of the universe.â - Christian de Duve. âA Guided Tour of the Living Cellâ (Nobel laureate and organic chemist) -- http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/science-quotes/ Nobel prize winners vs. Stu. I choose science.