At What Point Does America Stop Sending Money To Ukraine?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Yup and imo it's the hasty and irresponsible abandoning of Afghanistan that exposed America's weakness of which Russia is now taking advantage. And I agree it should've received far more scrutiny than it did.
     
    #31     Jun 24, 2022
  2. albion

    albion

    Instead of Capitalism/Democracy versus Communism the "battle" is now Capitalism/Democracy versus Autocracy-fascism/Kleptocracy (plus the added benefit of preventing full scale Russian genocide/ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians).

    But to answer your question, we stop sending money when Ukraine liberates occupied territories. A lot of countries are sending money and Russia is clearly no longer a world power. They have no way of making most weapon systems with the sanctions. So, it's not like this will go on forever.
     
    #32     Jun 24, 2022
  3. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    It was a major military failure, no different from desertion.
     
    #33     Jun 24, 2022
  4. albion

    albion

    Amazing there are Americans who post this kind of Russian propaganda. The Revolution of Dignity in 2014 was a response by Ukrainian citizens against a Russian-backed leader who had lied about following the popular desire to join the EU during the election, and instead forged ties with Russia in direct opposition to what he said he would do during the election; his goal was to repress the Ukranian people and create a Soviet style client state (much like Georgia, Chechnya, and other former Soviet republics). Ukraine has been fighting against Russia's proxy war in the Donbas since 2014, but they have been fighting Russian separatists and avoiding as much as possible hurting civilians (unlike the Russian separatists who engage in murder, rape, torture and imprisonment of political dissidents).
     
    #34     Jun 24, 2022
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  5. albion

    albion

    Trump's negotiations with the Taliban set the timeline for the withdrawal from Afghanistan. And Stephen Miller slowed down the visa application process for Afghani's who helped Americans troops (because he didn't want more brown skinned people coming to the United States). It was a mess but you cannot lay even the majority of the blame on the military and Biden. Trump and his administration remain the ultimate incompetent agents in the Afghanistan fiasco (and will remain the most incompetent administration in history more generally).
     
    #35     Jun 24, 2022
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  6. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Anything can be renegotiated and America has always been the master at negotiation, not anymore I guess under Biden.

    That was a dick move. I agree.
     
    #36     Jun 24, 2022
  7. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    Amazing there are programmed dolts who can't think for themselves and accuse anyone who disagrees with them as "Russian propagandists." I get my information from many sources, including some on the ground in the Ukraine and people I know who have lived in both nations. Get off your high horse. Your comment sounds like a cut/paste job off MSNBC.
    Are There Any Ukrainians WITHOUT Swastika Tattoos? - YouTube
     
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    #37     Jun 24, 2022
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  8. Wanna bet?
     
    #38     Jun 24, 2022
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  9. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    I'm sure some ET troll who can barely write a complete sentence knows more than world leaders who have war-gamed various scenarios for years and are tracking troops, materiel and data by the second. If they were really smart they'd just hire "themickey" to solve all of their problems instead.
     
    #39     Jun 24, 2022
  10. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    100% wrong. The issue was how they cleared out people, weapons and even cash. That was all on Biden and was executed about as badly as possible. I'm a former logistics officer and knew a bit more about this than a CNN junkie like yourself. And the Biden administration has surpassed the Carter admin as the most incompetent (almost by design?) already.
     
    #40     Jun 24, 2022
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