At What Point Does America Stop Sending Money To Ukraine?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. MKTrader

    MKTrader

    At that point they'll be asking to borrow from your hedge fund!
     
    #11     Jun 24, 2022
  2. themickey

    themickey

    No, deep down you have a bias, "biden sucks".
    Where biden is smarter than putin or trump, he works with allies, consults, works as a team.
     
    #12     Jun 24, 2022
  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Trump is not president... so that is inconsequential to this conversation.

    Putin doesn't have to be a team player to achieve the objectives I wrote above.
    That makes that inconsequential.

    You are sooo missing the bigger picture here buddy.

    Time will prove what I wrote above is right.
    It's Putin's long game.

    I bet you suck in chess Mick... no way you can't if that's the way your brain works from a strategic standpoint. You have to think ahead pal. Clarity of thought. Evaluate the board in front of you.

    Now knock off the whataboutism or I'll have Magna take you off the thread.
     
    #13     Jun 24, 2022
  4. Ukraine should just fall to Russia, from Day one.
    The US and Europe are making this into one, big, huge, long, extended, theatrical mess.

    In trading terms, Ukraine would be a determined, amateur trader who doesn't know when to cut his losses and gameplan short, unaware of true reality of the situation from an objective stance, perspective.
     
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    #14     Jun 24, 2022
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  5. themickey

    themickey

    Its not about whataboutism.
    No way Putin wins, he lost long ago.
    He's fucked up totally.
     
    #15     Jun 24, 2022
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  6. my fund does not loan out. the irr is already 89%
     
    #16     Jun 24, 2022
  7. mikeriley

    mikeriley

    Add a few dozen countries to that list.
    Our tax dollars have been subsidizing
    several countries for a very long time.

    Absolutely nothing will change in policy
    until people stop voting for the same
    politicians over and over again, or
    the miracle of term limits.

    How can I respect any person who keeps
    voting for Nancy Pelosi over and over?
    There are a few rhino's I could add behind
    Nancy also.

    Stop voting for politicians who don't
    do anything. Literally nothing.
     
    #17     Jun 24, 2022
  8. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    At What Point Does America Stop Sending Money To Ukraine?

    -Unless there is a regime change in Russia, it's when America runs out of money or when Russia gets the hell out of Ukraine and promises to never go in there or any NATO or potential NATO countries again whichever comes first. Since America will never run out of money due to its infinite money-printing power (face it if America eventually defaults from the tremendous amount of debt incurred from money-printing, who would dare to challenge America to pay?), so the question really comes down to whether there is going to be a regime change in Russia because the current regime is not going to withdraw from Ukraine voluntarily or promise that it won't attack other NATO or potentially NATO countries in the future since it too has infinite spending power since nobody dares to challenge Russia either if it ever defaults on its debt. And Putin knows this, unless there is a regime change like what happened in Iraq and other countries, US will be in a permanent draw with Russia and he can do whatever he wants. Today he can attack Ukraine, tomorrow he can attack other countries and all US will do is just impose economic sanctions and that's nothing. And soon, other countries that are unchallengeable will join in the fray as well and just attack whatever country(ies) they want and again US will be in a permanent stalemate as well because it's afraid to force a regime change.

    This is why eventually you are going to have to engage because otherwise no countries that have substantial military power will be safe because they can all be taken by other countries and all America is going to do is just impose some useless sanctions. If sanctions will not work for Russia, a country with relatively weaker economy, imagine how it will work against countries like China that has the second largest economy in the world.

    Welcome to World War III, thanks to Putin calling America's bluff in a well-played chess game.
     
    #18     Jun 24, 2022
  9. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    West won't bleed out but it's just we are not standing up to other countries that bully others anymore. It's like Sauron is taking out countries one by one in Middle Earth, nobody is standing up to fight him anymore or other dark forces that will eventually join in taking Middle Earth.
     
    #19     Jun 24, 2022
  10. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Ukraine shouldn't have ever needed to give in to Russia. If you want to use the analogy of trading, Ukraine is not losing money due to trading; it's losing money because Russia took money from Ukraine like an unscrupulous broker from its clients.
     
    #20     Jun 24, 2022