At This Rate, California

Discussion in 'Politics' started by HeSaidSheSaid, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. BSAM

    BSAM

    So, brother AK, have you heard what happened in the 60s?
    My point is that the minority is sometimes very correct.
     
    #51     Jul 5, 2013

  2. Huh? In your democracy where is prop 8, no gay marriage?

    Your post is some archaic bs, minority rocks, oh yea uh huh oh baby...:D
     
    #52     Jul 5, 2013
  3. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    You're a mindless drone, useful idiot and a big mouth pussy.
     
    #53     Jul 5, 2013
  4. Not to mention his "act" is getting very, very old.
     
    #54     Jul 5, 2013
  5. jem

    jem

    you realize govt drones like you carry out genocides around the world and throughout history... using the same excuse. Whether the leader be king, fuhrer or president -- almost all leaders lay claim to legitimacy.

    There is a difference between a properly elected leader and a legitimate moral order or action.

    For instance the military is to obey lawful orders only. It can be criminal to obey unlawful orders. You saw a few good men didn't you. Or... Crimson Tide. Those dramas set up the tension by illustrating the fact that unlawful orders are immoral.

    Under international law I would posit that it would immoral and illegal to kill americans who wish to peacefully leave the union.


    I make the above statement about international law... even though I am aware Bush and now Obama have tried to normalise drone killings and other atrocities against civilians in the name of security. http://www.criticalglobalisation.com/Issue6/30_56_ATROCITY_LAW_JCGS6.pdf


    I posit genocide and killing peaceful civilians who wish to self govern is still immoral and against international law... regardless of who orders it.





     
    #55     Jul 6, 2013
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Good point, IQ47 could easily have been one of the guys gassing Jews simply because his dear leader told him to.
     
    #56     Jul 6, 2013
  7. I agree jem and I have said that many times...THEY CAN PEACEFULLY LEAVE !!!!.

    They can not however leave and take American land.The state of Texas belongs to the people of The United States of America.If you try to steal land from the people of The United States of America the federal government has a duty to respond the same way Lincoln did.
     
    #57     Jul 6, 2013
  8. pspr

    pspr

    You don't read learned opinion very well.
     
    #58     Jul 6, 2013
  9. jem

    jem

    If they peacefully stay you would be a reprehensible human being if you killed them because you were ordered too.

    You would also be a war criminal.


     
    #59     Jul 7, 2013
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    California's finances improving faster than expected
    Legislature's advisors report higher-than-expected revenue could pump more than $4 billion in unanticipated funds into schools and community colleges starting next summer.

    By Chris Megerian
    November 20, 2013, 8:32 p.m.

    "SACRAMENTO — California's finances are improving faster than expected and schools could receive billions in extra funds next year, according to the Legislature's budget advisors.

    "The state's budgetary condition is stronger than at any point in the past decade," a report released Wednesday says.

    "Higher-than-expected revenue, driven by the economic recovery and stock market gains, could pump more than $4 billion in unanticipated funds into schools and community colleges starting next summer, the report says.

    "In addition, the analysts say, the state is on track for multibillion-dollar surpluses over the next several years, a potential cushion against the expiration of Gov. Jerry Brown's temporary tax hikes in 2018.

    "The latest figures probably will rekindle the debate over spending in the Legislature; the report acknowledges "there is pent-up demand" for restoring social services cut during the recession. But the strong forecast does not mean California's financial problems are over.

    "Recent estimates show that accounts dedicated to teacher pensions and retiree healthcare for public employees are underfunded by $135 billion. And the analysts cautioned that their projections depend on continued stock market gains, stability in a hyper-partisan Congress and the absence of a new recession or large spending increases.

    "But the routine deficits that plagued California every year, forcing lawmakers to scramble for cuts and short-term fixes, are "no more," according to the report."

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    #60     Nov 26, 2013