No jem,I don't think the gov is more important then the people thats why I would fight for the government that the people elected.Again,if any Texan wants to leave US government control they can freely do so by moving to another country,they can not take a part of The United States Of America though.We have already gone over this before when Lincoln was President.
Oh quit your singing. You'd do the same if it were, for example, commies trying to "break away" from the US and take land with them.
It was different. Lincoln could cloak the killing of americans under the fundamental right of equal rights and anti slavery. There were two competing fundamental rights of self determination going on in the lead up to the civil war. You were almost compelled to pick a potentially very bloody side. In your murderous scenario there really would be no difference if Californias were to break away for leftist reasons or Texans for conservative reasons. To what extent you would be willing to stop them. The idea that you would be willing to kill people in order that they stay part of the Government is really sick. it really is. The scary thing is, that we know there are probably thousands more who would do it for a a paycheck. So in the short run a crazy leader might actually send a waive of crazies like you in to kill and push buttons. in the long run we know the people with a conscience in the military or DHS would refuse to continue to kill. So what you have said you would do would be to participate in a massive very quick genocide. you really need to examine your values if you still think you would kill americans for the govt... if you conclude you willing to kill you are not an american at your core... you are not a human being at your core... you are like Saddam and his sons.
California will not soon break away. What would they do with no financial assistance from D.C.? It will take Texas to start the avalanche, if it begins anytime soon.
This was Lincolns justification. see... he starts with the all men are created equal. (the line everyone remembers) Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
If the majority of CA voted to leave the union... I would decide if I should stay or move. I would never dream of killing those on the opposite side of my point of view. One cause I believe in human rights. Two because I believe in Natural Rights Three because I believe there is a Creator so I suspect there may be eternal reward and punishment for serious deeds. 4th I can't imagine having our sons and maybe daughters going out and killing each other for power reasons. AK and you need to go back an read about what Gorbachev decided.
Bull shit jem,the act of secession is an act of war against the Untied States of America .Again,you can leave but you aren't taking American land with you