Assignment Risks of Writing ITM options

Discussion in 'Options' started by earth_imperator, Aug 5, 2022.

  1. taowave

    taowave

    You should understand the relationship between carry cost/stock rebates vs div rate vs the "emedded" short option(in your case,the corresponding call of the short put)

    If you are going to get assigned,it's typically a dividend play.
     
    #21     Aug 5, 2022
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    I think I'm not alone in that I no longer understand your questions. Can you start over and ask a simple question about being short puts.

     
    #22     Aug 5, 2022
  3. Really? What is stock rebate?

    But only for ShortCall, isn't it?
     
    #23     Aug 5, 2022
  4. Robert, it does not matter anymore, b/c the problem has already been solved! Thx.
     
    #24     Aug 5, 2022
  5. Welcome on board! :D

    Just my saying: ITM, or even deep ITM, does not mean early assignment risk.

    I'm a learner myself, so other experts can surely judge it better than me, but I think your example, analysis and expertise is very correct, IMHO. Thx.
     
    #25     Aug 5, 2022
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  6. zdreg

    zdreg

    A covered put is not a cash secured put.
    A covered put is short stock and short put.

    Any option that is deep in the money is subject to early exercise by the buyer if the market price of the option is less than the real value of the option. e.g put strike price is 50 current price of stock is 20. The put is worth 30. The option hardly trades The market for option is bid at 28. Rather than selling the put at 28 netting 28 minus the cost of the put, the buyer exercises the put at 50. he sells you stock at 50 and buys stock immediately at 20 netting 30 minus the cost of buying the put.
     
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    #26     Aug 5, 2022
  7. Right, thx for the correction.
    I mean CashSecured Put, b/c this is easier to trade than Covered Put and Covered Call.
     
    #27     Aug 5, 2022
  8. donnap

    donnap

    The easiest way to determine assignment risk is to calculate the European style value of the option.

    All cost of carry inputs should be included such as interest rates, pending divs, and borrow costs.

    If the European value is below parity, then there's a high probability that the option will be exercised.

    Using this method, as long as the option shows some extrinsic value then the probability is low, because the holder is better off selling the option.

    But there are exceptions to this general rule. Since the holder has the right to exercise there are no guarantees.
     
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    #28     Aug 5, 2022
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  9. taowave

    taowave

    Nope..Think about it..You sell an ATM put on a stock with a high dividend yield going ex div 2 weeks before expiration..

    The stock tanks and drops 20 percent..

    The OTM call on the same line and expiry of your short put is now offered at .01..

    Let's assume that I am long the put you sold and Delta hedged it and am now in the synthetic call,I.e. Long stock/Long put..

    Hypothetically,if the carry on the long stock is ten cents after going ex,what do you think the holder of the synthetic call does???






     
    #29     Aug 5, 2022
  10. This sounds too good to be true, IMO.
    Anyone can confirm the above claim of making such a big profit by exercising?
    Can one give a real-word example using for example options data from YahooFinance?

    Btw, later on Sat I'll try to implement this into my option scanner and see whether it finds any such, IMO, arbitrage.
     
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    #30     Aug 5, 2022