As America declines, the rest of the world rises...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by OPTIONAL777, Apr 3, 2009.

  1. (CNN)

    Author and world affairs expert Fareed Zakaria spoke to CNN about the G-20:

    CNN: What do you think of President Obama's trip to the G-20?

    Fareed Zakaria: Although he brought a lot of star power -- the talk of the week -- at least in certain circles in Washington, New York and London -- has been that President Obama is failing in his role as leader of the free world. British columnist Jonathan Freedland wrote in The Guardian newspaper that President Obama looks neither like JFK nor FDR but rather JEC -- that's James Earl Carter -- better known here as Jimmy Carter.

    CNN: But it appears everyone is fawning over him.

    Zakaria: President Obama has encountered a Europe that is more resistant to his policy proposals. The French and Germans have their own proposals. The Chinese and Russians have come with their own demands. And everyone expects him to apologize for having caused this mess in the first place.

    CNN: But can they blame him for the mess?

    Zakaria: Of course not. He didn't cause this mess, and no one really blames him personally. The problems President Obama is facing on the world stage have nothing to do with him. They are really a sign that personality cannot trump power in the world of realpolitik. The real story here is that power is shifting away from American dominance to a post-American world. Video Watch: James Baker on Obama's performance as president »

    CNN: Are you just plugging your book?

    Zakaria: Well, that was the argument of the book I wrote last year -- "The Post-American World" -- but what I had outlined is coming true. The evidence for this just keeps piling up.

    CNN: Before you outline the evidence, remind me of the basic premise of your book.

    Zakaria: It's that the rest of the world is rising to meet the United States' position -- economically, politically and culturally. I want to be clear that I am not talking about America's decline as much as the rise of the rest. While we stayed comfortable in our status quo position, the rest of the world was learning from us and are playing our game and succeeding in it.

    CNN: OK. Now give me the examples from the G-20 meeting.

    Zakaria: Let me name two things that struck me.

    First, the Chinese have called for a new reserve currency to replace the dollar. This would never have happened 10 years ago -- back then, they needed America too much.

    Then the French and Germans have said they want a new system of financial regulation that will replace the American-style one that has reigned for the last 20 years.

    Why are the flexing their muscles? Because they can.

    CNN: Is this happening because of the financial crisis?

    Zakaria: The trends were there before, but it appears the financial crisis has accelerated the process. So we are entering the post-American world much faster than even I had anticipated.

    CNN: Should we be scared?

    Zakaria: Fear should not be our response. We need to recommit to our strengths. America's great -- and potentially insurmountable -- strength is it remains the most open, flexible society in the world, able to absorb other people, cultures, ideas, goods and services.

    The country thrives on the hunger and energy of poor immigrants. Faced with the new technologies of foreign companies or growing markets overseas, it adapts and adjusts. When you compare this dynamism with the closed and hierarchical nations that were once superpowers, you sense that the United States is different and may not fall into the trap of becoming rich and fat and lazy.

    CNN: What should the U.S. do?

    Zakaria: The United States needs to make its own commitment to the system clear. For America to continue to lead the world, we will have to first join it. President Obama seems to understand this and is doing his best at meetings like the G-20 and the NATO summit.

    It is also imperative that more Americans become aware of what is going on in other places -- the other 90 percent of the world.
  2. Optional are you really posting an article/interview that is skeptical of Obama's leadership?

    Did someone hack into your account?
  3. Brandonf

    Brandonf ET Sponsor

    What do you expect when you elect a guy who's never had a real fucking job?
  4. Sorry Brandon, I'll have to chime in here. To suggest that the overall decline in American hegemony over the past 15 years is Obama's fault is beneath you and a frankly stupid suggestion (sorry, but I have to call this one like I see it). Declining literacy rates, misguided immigration policies, out-of-control spending, and most importantly the secular rise in influence of countries like India and and China (for reasons which are obvious to everyone) have all contributed to what is now perceived to be America's 'decline' (which, by the way, I don't quite believe in yet).

    Similarly, it is absurd to suggest that the state of the recovery is down to the fact that he 'hasn't held a real job'.

    I was happy to see him get in just because I took so much pleasure in contemplating how much misery it caused the racists in America. That said, I can see that his first 90 days have been an unequivocal failure.

    However, the suggestion that America's decline is his fault is, as I said, difficult to believe coming from you.
  5. Brandonf

    Brandonf ET Sponsor

    Oh I think our decline has been happening for a long time. I've said here a number of time's that this economic crisis and the decline in our overall power is more about how terrilbe our culture has become. Obama is no cause, he is simply another symptom (and to be fair so was Bush)

  6. When did he suggest the overall decline was Obama's fault?

    He was saying that Obama has never had a real job and so it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone when they realize Obama has no leadership skills.

    Although no Obama supporters would admit it I would argue that a vast majority of them subconsciously agree that Obama's personality traits do not at all resemble anything of leadership capacity.

    Just look at the guy. Obama seems like a nice, compassionate and cool guy. I am sure if I knew him personally we would become fast friends with political talk thrown in the background but I just can't see him being a true leader.
  7. Why everyone says he never had a job

    I thought he was practicing law in Chicago before running for president