Arizona New World Order. "Sir are your papers in order"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by KINGOFSHORTS, Apr 24, 2010.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    I'd be more than willing to go to our southern border and "do something". But then my government would prosecute me, for doing what they won't.

    A simple no/low cost solution has already been advocated. Exorbitant fines on employers hiring illegals. One problem though, who creates and imposes such laws/fines?. The same government that has no interest in dealing with let alone solving the problem to begin with.

    Hence Arizona's desperation to do something, even if it's not perfect.
     
    #181     Apr 29, 2010
  2. Here's some more of that twisted leftist logic, from none other than Billy boy. Yep, let's just keep exploiting those illegals. Nice slaves to have paying in to a system and then not collecting. Perfect!

    Former President Bill Clinton enthusiastically weighed into the blistering national debate on immigration today with a resounding assertion that America needs more immigrants -- not fewer -- to ensure its long-term fiscal future.

    At a symposium on deficit reduction today (see my earlier story), Clinton said that one key to avoiding massive debt is to maintain a good ratio between people paying into the system, and those receiving payouts (through such programs as Social Security.)

    That means more jobs and more people working, he said. "Which to me means more immigrants."

    Clinton said he supports immigration reform as proposed by President Obama or as supported by Sen. John McCain before he changed his mind.

    Clinton spoke glowingly of the immigrant experience in the United States. "We've got somebody from everywhere here, and they do well," he said.

    And looking at the overall budget numbers, comparing money in to money out, "I don't think there's any alternative for us but increasing immigration," he said. "I just don't see any palatable way out of this unless that's part of the strategy."

    Clinton didn't mention it, but it's not just legal immigrants who contribute to the plus side of the Treasury's balance sheet. In fact, undocumented immigrants are even more lucrative for the government, particularly Social Security. Many undocumented workers have payroll taxes automatically withheld from their wages, but because they use fake numbers, never collect the benefits.
     
    #182     Apr 29, 2010
  3. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    At some point the democrats decided they want permanent control and, I think, are trying to pack the country with people they perceive will vote for them.

    Its dangerous and un-American. I've never felt so helpless and simultaneously pissed-off in my whole life. Its not likely I'm the only one. I guess we will see in November.
     
    #183     Apr 29, 2010
  4. you might need a reminder..

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/28/bush-leaving-next-preside_n_115335.html
     
    #184     Apr 29, 2010
  5. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    #185     Apr 29, 2010
  6. #186     Apr 29, 2010
  7. Geez...Clinton sounds like an industrialist looking to capitalize on cheap labor...

    Isn't that the republican way? Capitalize on cheap labor?

     
    #187     Apr 29, 2010
  8. So are you saying the republicans never wanted permanent control?

    They willingly surrender control with out a fight, work with Obama in a spirit of compromise?

     
    #188     Apr 29, 2010
  9. i think feels like the whole universe is closing in on him :D
     
    #189     Apr 29, 2010
  10. 377OHMS

    377OHMS

    Are you still butt-hurt from that other thread? :D C'mon, I took it easy on you.
     
    #190     Apr 29, 2010