Argument that decimates the pro gun position

Discussion in 'Politics' started by L-Kabong, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. Their primary goal is to make money and they make the most money by representing gun manufacturers. Stop kidding yourself.
     
    #11     Dec 20, 2012
  2. achilles28

    achilles28

    #12     Dec 20, 2012
  3. Mav88

    Mav88

    you stupid fucks, you really can't grasp reality.

    Crime is a mostly a problem with non-assimilating minorities. The crime rate among USA whites is just about the same as Europeans

    Here ask the Swedes about this


    http://www.thelocal.se/38876/20120202/


     
    #13     Dec 20, 2012
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    You are very angry and mean when you talk. Tell me why YOUR country is very advance, very wealthy, and lead in the world when they always have minorities in their country.
    Stop your blame of minoritys. You are superpower.
     
    #14     Dec 20, 2012
  5. Mav88

    Mav88

    Not anger so much as contempt.

    We were about 80% white european for most of our history, Germans were our largest ethnic group. Don't try and sell me the crap about blacks and hispanics building this place, as you can see we are going in the wrong direction simultaneous with the demogrpahic shift.

    The fact is they ARE a problem, just as muslims ruined Malmo.
     
    #15     Dec 20, 2012
  6. More examples:

    In the UK:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994
    In France:
    http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2011/February/Frances-Sarkozy-Multiculturalism-Has-Failed/
    In Germany:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed
    In the Netherlands:
    http://www.stonegateinstitute.org/2219/netherlands-abandons-multiculturalism

     
    #16     Dec 20, 2012
  7. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Actually we're $16.3 Trillion in debt. Our infrastructure is in decay and the free loader/entitlement/welfare classes now outnumber the responsible productive tax payers. Think - ancient Rome.
     
    #17     Dec 20, 2012
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Even IF that's true, I'm OK with it.
     
    #18     Dec 20, 2012
  9. Hey Lucrum. Why don't you try reading the opinion and addressing the arguments? I know you are a one sentence guy but it's really not that long an essay.

    My challenge to you, as a proud (and victorious Yankee): read the essay and respond to it. The author has a thesis and makes various arguments to support it. If you have agreement, say so, if not, do likewise and explain your position. If you support any of the arguments but not the conclusion, tell us why. It's an issue that affects the entire country.

    Is the 2nd amendment obsolete today? Should we fashion a new
    principle that on the one hand preserves the right for reasonable self defense with the right have arms, and on the other hand maximizes a fundamental purpose of our union of preserving domestic tranquility and promoting the public welfare?

    Arms have the incredibly challenging and vexing ability both to preserve the domestic tranquility we need, further the public welfare, and upset that tranquility and destroy that welfare for some.

    We're hearing two extremist arguments in the media: arm everyone including teachers and blast the fucking rogue before he kills too many, and disarm everyone. Neither is satisfying, workable, or consistent with maximizing freedom and safety. So what is the answer?
     
    #19     Dec 20, 2012
  10. Not really. Your crime in the USA is not from immigrants majority. Your crime is from USA citizens. And assimilation you can see happen all the time. You can see many people learn your language, and try to have their business in your country, in your language. Look in your city. What do you hear? You hear your English language from the immigrant merchants to you.
     
    #20     Dec 20, 2012