Argument Against Unions

Discussion in 'Politics' started by VicBee, Mar 1, 2024.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/...tions-faa-finds-shocking-production-flaws.htm

    Boeing Directs Employees to Take 'Immediate Actions' After FAA Finds Shocking Production Flaws
    This comes after an FAA audit prompted by a safety incident on an Alaska Airlines flight.
    Jace Dela Cruz, Tech Times 14 March 2024

    Boeing is instructing its employees to take immediate steps to address operational issues following a report by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) that exposed shocking production flaws from the company.

    Stan Deal, the head of Boeing's commercial aviation division, conveyed this directive to the company's workforce in response to findings from an FAA audit prompted by a safety incident on an Alaska Airlines flight earlier this year.
    "As we conduct quality stand downs across our company, your improvement ideas have been invaluable. We have used your feedback, and those from our regulator and customers, to take immediate actions to strengthen our safety and quality. These actions are central to a comprehensive plan we will soon deliver to the FAA," Deal said in an official statement.

    Deal Urges "Immediate Actions" From Boeing Employees
    Deal emphasized the importance of addressing feedback from employees, regulators, and customers to enhance safety and quality standards.
    He highlighted the company's commitment to implementing swift actions to strengthen operations, a crucial component of a comprehensive plan Boeing intends to submit to the FAA in response to the regulator's recent directives.

    The FAA audit, conducted extensively at Boeing's Renton factories in January and February, revealed several instances of non-compliance related to production and quality control processes.

    Deal outlined steps taken by Boeing to rectify these issues, including additional inspections, employee training sessions, compliance checks, and toolbox audits. The company is also planning further audits to ensure full compliance with regulatory standards.
    In addition to the FAA audit, Boeing underwent a comprehensive review of its Safety Management System (SMS) by a panel of industry experts mandated by the US Congress.

    Overly Complicated
    The panel's report identified areas where Boeing's procedures were deemed overly complicated and recommended streamlining processes to improve safety outcomes. Boeing said that it is actively working to address these recommendations and simplify its operations.

    To strengthen safety and quality standards company-wide, Deal emphasized the importance of employees meticulously adhering to manufacturing procedures and promptly reporting any safety hazards or quality issues they encounter.
    He highlighted ongoing efforts to reduce traveled work in factories and enhance collaboration with suppliers to ensure first-pass quality.
    "We have more to do and you play an important role. The quality stand downs have been a great platform to surface ideas and we have more of those planned this month. Meanwhile, please continue to raise concerns, anonymously or otherwise, via Speak Up. Thank you for strengthening our commitment to compliance and ensuring safety and quality in all that we do," Deal said in a statement.

    While Boeing's efforts to address production flaws are noteworthy, the company's reputation has been compromised by a series of safety incidents and manufacturing issues, raising concerns about its ability to maintain stringent quality standards.

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    #21     Mar 15, 2024
  2. VicBee

    VicBee

    Having worked for over 10 years on the management side of a unionized industry, this situation speaks very clearly to me that management has lost total control of its business to unions.
    It important to realize that the labor union in charge of building these aircrafts is barely beholden to management. The fuse when shit hits the fan isn't labor, it's management. As government sees it, it's management's incompetence implementing good practices that leads to accidents. In reality, management is operating within highly constrained parameters, where even simple changes are negotiable, simple disagreements hold up operations, and labor knows they don't risk their jobs for poor performance.
    Boeing's situation is a result of management's inability to control its manufacturing side.
     
    #22     Mar 15, 2024
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    let me guess, Boeing's abysmal quality control is because "unions"? GTFO here
     
    #23     Mar 15, 2024
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    oh....no guess needed LMAO

    Boeing's Union history is much older than its current troubles:

    https://www.heraldnet.com/business/...ive Boeing production,workers as the war ends.

    Here; you should watch this:
     
    #24     Mar 15, 2024
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    Employee ownership is the best way to get maximum quality.
     
    #25     Mar 15, 2024
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  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    Who performs the work and the quality control? Not management... All labor.
     
    #26     Mar 15, 2024
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Imo it should be everyone. But because we stratify the workplace we get siloed functionaries.
     
    #27     Mar 15, 2024
  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    Well, it should be entirely labor, but no government is going to point a finger to a labor union, it's less threatening to go after management.
     
    #28     Mar 15, 2024
  9. VicBee

    VicBee

    If you've ever done trade shows, you know what it's like to set up your booth. You're forbidden to use a tool or touch anything that is defined as union work. These guys will get to you when they're ready, and you may wait hours for them to build the booth that you could set up yourself in under 30 minutes then go about your day.
    That kind of attitude is precisely why I abhor unions.
     
    #29     Mar 15, 2024
  10. Ricter

    Ricter

    Imo it should be entirely employees, whether they have management functions or not, and those employees should all own an equal share of the business they labor in. Furthermore, they should be the only owners, there should be no such thing as external "shareholders", what I think of as non-resident non-essentials.

    One might ask, "but then how could we finance large enterprises?" Large enterprises should be financed by government, democratically elected government. There should be no such thing as privately owned large enterprises. How to draw the line on what is "large"? When it's so large the local credit union (also employee owned) cannot provide financing.

    Many large enterprises today would not exist in that economy, and imo that would be a good thing, those are the ones doing the most damage to the biosphere for the sake of a few. It's time for degrowth, in fact it's way overdue.

    These are just idle principles—the devil would be in the details.
     
    #30     Mar 15, 2024