Are We Truly Aware of the Potential of Algorithmic Trading?

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by daanipd, Jul 28, 2023.

  1. Big AAPL

    Big AAPL

    lol
     
    #11     Jul 28, 2023
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  2. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    The Algos are only one part of the equation.

    The most useful part is the order flow data and the capital to take the other side against the weak hands (most retail traders).
     
    #12     Jul 28, 2023
  3. And how do you know what percentage of that order flow is made of retail orders?

    Is there something you are not telling us?
     
    #13     Jul 28, 2023
  4. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    It's assumed based upon where they get the order flow from.....i.e. Robin Hood.
     
    #14     Jul 28, 2023
  5. You are talking about institutional trading using payment for order flow. Quite far away from the thread topic, don't you think so?
     
    #15     Jul 28, 2023
  6. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    No. That is one of the best, if not the best, application of Algo trading. Trading mean reversion or some other anomaly inside of large datasets is ok, but when you have the order flow in real time you see all of the other players cards.
     
    #16     Jul 28, 2023
  7. fan27

    fan27

    What drawdown percent will you tolerate before deactivating the system?
     
    #17     Jul 28, 2023
  8. Ok Captain obvious, and do you have that order flow at hand. Are you a market maker?
     
    #18     Jul 28, 2023
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I costarted an algorithmic market making desk and was in that world for about 4 years.

    The goal is to get tiny orders from thousands of uninformed retail traders who are crossing the bid offer. This way you can capture the bid offer and run a statistically flat book. You first goal is to run a flat book (in aggregate risk). After you get good at that you can attempt to run statistical arb by skewing your quoting and not hedging risk as you acquire it.

    but that’s only secondary. First step is to just trade the flow and not get whacked by a million people buying calls in GME.


     
    #19     Jul 29, 2023
  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Those are names.

    I asked which "market/instruments"?

    As in exchanges and symbols. CME & NQU23 perhaps?

    When I see someone say SP500 I'm thinking they are talking about those shifty CFD'S Europeans are fond of, or all they can get their hands on to trade. Yes?
     
    #20     Jul 29, 2023