Are we one year out from WW3?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Grandluxe, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. Jean Claude Juncker: Europe's demons are only sleeping

    A senior European politician has made the extraordinary claim that resentment of Germany by the Mediterranean countries has "chilling" parallels with complacency in 1913 that led to the First World War.

    By Jeevan Vasagar, Berlin11:51AM GMT 11 Mar 2013

    Jean Claude Juncker, prime minister of Luxembourg, who chaired a group of Euro-zone finance ministers at the height of the financial crisis, claimed that elections in Italy and Greece brought "national resentments to the surface, which we'd believed had gone away".He said that he had been appalled by protesters' banners in Greece which showed Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, in Nazi uniform.

    Mr Juncker said in an interview with the magazine Der Spiegel: "Anyone who believes that the eternal question of war and peace in Europe is no longer there risks being deeply mistaken."The demons have not gone away – they're only sleeping, as the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo showed. I am struck by how much conditions in Europe in 2013 are similar those of 100 years ago."

    The way in which some political figures in Germany had been criticised in Greece has left "deep wounds" Mr Juncker said. He said the Italian election was also "excessively hostile to Germany and therefore anti-European".Resentment over austerity measures advocated by Germany spilled over into public anger when Mrs Merkel visited Athens last October. Some Greeks protesters burned a swastika flag while others dressed in Nazi uniforms.

    During the Italian elections, Silvio Berlusconi blamed "German-centric" policies for Italy's economic problems. Mr Juncker, who chaired the Euro Group from 2005 until he stepped down in January this year, said that he saw parallels with 1913."In 1913 many believed that there would be no more war in Europe. The great powers of the continent were so closely inter-twined economically that the view was widespread that they could no longer have military confrontations," he said.
  2. Might be.The middle east is ready to explode,Asia is ready to explode.Shit could turn out bad as Russia and China will be against us and Britain is our only real ally and their military really isn't much
  3. pspr


    I guess they haven't been over here to see the rhetoric and the divide going on in America. Europeans are such wusses.
  4. It is looking more dire, as suicides are exploding in Greece and Italy. No job, no food, and people start looking to place blame and gov't becomes the logical focal point of their misery. The Euro was touted as a uniting force, and may end up doing the opposite.
  5. Juncker's claims make about as much sense as liberals here with fevered delusions that southern states and the KKK are actively planning a renewal of the Civil War.

    Certainly it is a much debated question if Greece, Italy et al would be better off freed from the euro and in possession of their own sovereignty again. Still no one forced them at the point of a gun to join the euro and no one is going to send in their army to force them to stay in the euro-bloc.

    In the case of the former Confederacy, they were forced at gunpoint to join a union they wanted no part of and forced to accept constitutional amendments under duress.
  6. 1. Liberals aren't the ones buying up guns and ammo.

    2. The confederates started the civil war.

    3. They accepted those amendments because they lost the war they started.
  7. Lucrum


    Not unlike Obama.
  8. wjk


    Neither are conservatives. But Homeland? That's a different story. I agree with an article I read earlier today stating JN should be called to congress and explain why they are buying enough ammo to train LE for 100 years or fight a hot war like Iraq for 20+ years.

    Post edit: Here it is:

    "1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation"
  9. Really now?

    An enormous surge in the number of groups that "see the federal government as their primary enemy" and in some cases have militias as their "armed wings" continues, the Southern Poverty Law Center reports today.

    According to the civil rights organization's researchers, the rapid growth in such "Patriot movement" groups, which began when Barack Obama ran for president in 2008, has mushroomed since. They estimate there are now nearly 10 times more Patriot and militia organizations — 1,274 in all — in the U.S.

    Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the law center, told us this morning that Obama's candidacy and election has fueled the growth in groups that believe the federal government will "impose martial law ... confiscate guns ... open concentration camps run by FEMA ... and force the U.S. to become a socialist state."

    "It's a conspiracy-driven movement," he added.

    Homeland is getting ready for the rednecks to come out of the woods and hills, shooting, just as they have done before. The response will be quick and decisive.
  10. They also arent the ones making the war threats


    #10     Mar 11, 2013