Are US markets like oil,index, and commodity markets rigged

Discussion in 'Trading' started by brokenmarkets, Jan 6, 2011.

  1. ES and index futures and oil and forex looks rigged?

    is the markets rigged and manipulated?

    it feels like it's rigged and manipulated especially for major index stocks likeindex stocks.

    the market makers evil axis is so obvious.

    the volume is less so it's easier to manipulate and rigg...it's like real investors have abandon market.all this volume is fake volume by computers

    the daytrading environment is not the same as before. the market going into volume drought...

    the market is still here but it's not the same as before..THE MARKET HAS CHANGED BEFORE MY EYES.
     
  2. The Chairman of the Federal Reserve stated in a newspaper op-ed, only a few months ago, that one of his major objectives is to increase stock prices. That should answer pretty much all your questions.
     
  3. objective...i'm sure he has investments in the stock market like oil etc..

    you see it's none of the business of the gov't how the stock market does... wall street doesn't create wealth. companies create wealth if you look back in all th bankrupt companies and ripoff prices people pay for pieces of paper that don't pay dividends et...wall street is just where shares 'traded' no wealth is created.

    being a public company is now an expense sine volume is so low it's not even worth keeping the company listed..no shares are traded. no investors. tradder/investors don't trust this market like they before. people don't like to be manipulated or fooled.

    citigroup shares have been diluted 90% by the gov't at $5/share it's expensive. it'll never go back to $50/again..the chart doesn't show share dilution...if the chart of citigroup show share dilution citigroup is now $45/share. and it's now a riskier bank to own that doesn't pay a dividend. going form $5 to $3 is same as $50 stock going to $30 stock just it's much faster for $5 stock to go to $3. citigroup is essentially a penny stock.

    the free lunch is growth in the economy or increase earnings. and fake market isn't growth. paper gains are just that PAPER GAINS. all this free money printed quantitative easing not creating any new jobs or wealth...it's make everyone poorer ....with rising prices yet income s are same...

    ben is from academia not from the street. he isn't aware of the criminal activity that goes on here...like goldman sachs selling worthless bonds to pension funds etc...and inflated stocks to clients...or worthless stocks.. or pumping stocks about to go bankrupt and shorting it...it's a really aweful place filled with fraud.. the fact you can have no stock market no futrues market no options market and the economy would still function. pork belly futures are no longer traded but the market for pork bellies still thrives in the real cash market. wall street is mostly for speculation and trading...it's an industry in itself..like investment industry..people get paid to 'manage' paper.odd isn't it.



     
  4. So how much you lost then ....

    Otherwise who gives a f... that the markets have changed.

    Change is a constant.

    Adapt or find another thing to do with your money.
     
  5. bkveen3

    bkveen3

    He wants stock prices to rise because that is indicative of companies doing well. There policies are not aimed at affecting price directly but using QE1 and QE2 the Fed helped fund thousands of business projects. The low rates on these bonds made the projects highly profitable. This pushed up company revenues and subsequently the stock price. The Fed was watching stock valuations to see if their policy was working. It did pretty well. Now those stronger companies are starting to hire workers. Maybe their idea worked?
     
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    How exactly is the market rigged? Over the last 12 years the S&P is down. Basically in one big trading range. Please walk me through your logic if there is any.
     
  7. yaeh, of course it worked
    but those companies hire workers in China
    now just wait till gas breaches $4 and you will see uneployement go north of 15%

    by the the way what kind of business project QE finances? 3 years of employment benefits? War in afganistan? Bonuses for goldman?
     
  8. WHAT THE FUCK? Did he really? Link please!
     
  9. Too funny, hearing some of you pathetic wannabee traders claiming rigged markets. Why don't you just admit that you can't trade for sh*t. Go get a job at Mc Donalds and stop whining like lil bitches...
     
  10. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/03/AR2010110307372.html

    [QE] eased financial conditions in the past and, so far, looks to be effective again. Stock prices rose and long-term interest rates fell when investors began to anticipate the most recent action. Easier financial conditions will promote economic growth. For example, lower mortgage rates will make housing more affordable and allow more homeowners to refinance. Lower corporate bond rates will encourage investment. And higher stock prices will boost consumer wealth and help increase confidence, which can also spur spending...
     
    #10     Jan 7, 2011