Are trends just self fulfilling propecy?

Discussion in 'Psychology' started by mute9003, Jul 12, 2024.

  1. Yes to a degree. It isn't "be all and end all", but it's a significant factor in market movement. EVERYBODY is watching the same charts... when they act in majority it often becomes "monkey see, monkey do". There are patterns as to how they "usually behave". That's why traders need to know Price TA.
     
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    #11     Jul 12, 2024
  2. Retail loses primarily because they are not knowledgeable... not properly educated.(IOW... they are stupid but don't realize it.) If they learned "Price TA" and executed with discipline, they'd soon be driving the super car of thier dreams!! :)

    The price charts don't lie. It's all "right there, in front of your eyes". Learn to read it like reading a road map. The road map doesn't lie... it tells the EXACT route. Price TA shows THE START (and later continuation, if applicable) of the current route.. A HUGE EDGE!! (beyond the "start", one has to "play it by ear"... they ain't going to hold the hold the whole thing out to you on a silver platter, you know.)

    I can't do a big enough bold for how important this concept is...

    The market chart shows the change from buying-to selling and selling-to-buying. As a trader, you need to recogize this and get your money on the right side of what the market has shown. Every other consideration you have is irrelevant!*

    Price TA works on ALL TIME FRAMES... ON ALL MARKETS.... equities, bonds, commodities, even mop squeezers. !

    * Price TA distains the notion of "volume anything". At worst, volume is misleading. At best, it's always "late" and can be misleading. Important/swing highs and lows can occur on low or high volume, yet have zero significance. Traders mistakenly believe "volume confirms",... in spite of conventional belief/rhetoric, IT DOES NOT!! When it comes to "volume", FUGGETABOUTIT!!
     
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    #12     Jul 12, 2024
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    True; I like to study trends.
    Glad I looked up the M Websters definition of brainwashing which includes ''force ...propaganda''
    LOL, not the trends I trade + invest in :caution::caution:
    But M websters also included ''salemanship'' so good warning on a clean washed brain LOL:D:D
     
    #13     Jul 12, 2024
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  4. mute9003

    mute9003

    but price does lie. When its being manipulated.
    Chart lies
    There are traps in charts
    There are chatroom pumps and failed breakouts
     
    #14     Jul 12, 2024
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    Monkey see, monkey do pattern, I will watch for that one .
    And traders, investors + elephants plan + some times do.Good patterns sometimes.
    Back to trend study......:D:D
     
    #15     Jul 12, 2024


  6. IMO it's a waste of time to try and figure out which opinion will drive short term price.

    You're better off trying to figure out "will company X be successful".

    At least in that scenario you're dealing with objective reality instead of trying to guess what's in someone else's head.


    "In the short term the stock market behaves like a voting machine, but in the long term it acts as a weighing machine."
    -Graham
     
    #16     Jul 12, 2024
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  7. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    As WS adages go, that's always been one of my favorites. Because it's true lol.
     
    #17     Jul 12, 2024
  8. tomkat22

    tomkat22

    All that comes with the territory if you're gonna trade stocks. You just have to learn to deal with it.
     
    #18     Jul 12, 2024
  9. "3 out of 4 wrong".

    1. As far as "manipulated stocks", you're playing a fool's game in low priced stocks.
    2. Traps... false breakouts are not "traps", but strong, positive signals unto themselves in larger stocks.
    3. Forget "chatroom stocks"... trade big, liquid names not subject to manipulation.

    Don't be a dope! :)
     
    #19     Jul 12, 2024
  10. Handle123

    Handle123

    Most would think they get exploited and become known, but for whatever the reason, it keeps working for me past 32 years I been trading these patterns. And they along with risk management are my edge.

    That is not going to happen. I am not a fool.
    But what I will say, most humans think within a box cause 99% of our beliefs of who we are like being in a happy place and brains make it difficult to "stray" outside of their comfort zone. Most traders are going for huge profits whereas I aim for consistency and consistency increases size for day trading, but long term, hedging needed looking for home run profits.
     
    #20     Jul 12, 2024