what about brian hunter? you know the guy that deutsche bank hauled out of their offices cause he was losing so much money? then got them to recommend him to with that small time fund, I think it was called amerath? and proceeded to blow their 6 billion? How the hell could their uppers even let him get away with that? Risk management anyone? From what I am reading, newbies and pros have all of the same problems, except when the they win they win. neiderhoffer, longview, amerath, solomon bros, etc. all have the same problems as newbies, and its funny because you would think they know better. and I am no less guilty of making any of the same mistakes.