Are options inherently a short-term trade?

Discussion in 'Options' started by .sigma, Dec 5, 2019.

  1. .sigma

    .sigma

    Would that single trade outperform if you traded in smaller time-frames? Lets say you only traded this 300 SPY June 2020 call, and you also traded smaller time-framed trades and managed winners. What I'm trying to figure out is number of occurrences a better deal? The more data the more it tendency centralizes.

    And BTW your example assumes going long an ITM call, why not spread it and buy a deep ITM call spread? I'm not speaking solely on going long either. I'm talking about longer time frames in general, it could be a year long credit spread or year long debit spread, a year long naked put or a year long strangle, whatever the strategy it doesn't matter, i'm just wondering if one could trade these strategies in far out contracts in the term structure.
     
    #11     Dec 6, 2019
  2. taowave

    taowave

    Not following your choice of strikes..If you are really convinced you go ATM,but otherwise 1/2 ATR ITM..

    That would imply you choose the lower Delta when you have more conviction??

    How do you choose your short leg??

     
    #12     Dec 6, 2019
  3. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    "Exactly! If your stops are getting hit you don't know how to trade. "

    You do realize that comment is moronic?
     
    #13     Dec 6, 2019
  4. Is it?
     
    #14     Dec 6, 2019
  5. taowave

    taowave

    Bid offer spread on 1 year options,let alone spreads is way too wide to trade for a 1 ATR move..

    He's a delta trader trying to offset some of the decay...At least that's what I am getting out of this



     
    #15     Dec 6, 2019
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  6. Gut feel. The reason I chose ATM is because I can buy more contracts (I use a fixed dollar amount). What would you do?
    Weird I do it profitably. What time frame are you looking at? Edit: ah I see you are talking about a year out. I'm talking two weeks out.
     
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    #16     Dec 6, 2019
  7. taowave

    taowave

    Lol....I wasn't about to put it that way,but you are spot on...

     
    #17     Dec 6, 2019
  8. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    Not certain. Maybe I just didn't' know how to trade. :p
     
    #18     Dec 6, 2019
  9. Well you made a very strong comment so I'd assume you have some logic to back it up
     
    #19     Dec 6, 2019
  10. Such great traders here I am in the presence of elites.
     
    #20     Dec 6, 2019
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