Are options a waste of time and money? (pun intended)

Discussion in 'Trading' started by wxytrader, Jul 22, 2023.

  1. destriero

    destriero

    An arb in structure, in index, that has no capacity issues and a lower req than a box/roll. When I doubled size it ADDED buying power under TIMS. Zero vol-shift. Shown in QQQ. If you don't understand the significance then this thread is perfect for you.

    Bye.
     
    #141     Jul 23, 2023
  2. LOL I bet BNF wouldn't understand what you are talking about either.

    Transalation: You are trading arbitrage using a box spread in an index fund. Do you even cover your fees?

    BNF kept it simple and made millions.
     
    #142     Jul 23, 2023
  3. destriero

    destriero


    You're fucking dumb.

    It's long vol throughout. It's not a box-arb... I was stating that the cash-req is less than a box/roll arb. It's a 600-lot arb in QQQ (NDX, but priced in Q). Look at the y-axis.
     
    #143     Jul 23, 2023
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  4. So what's the risk reward?
     
    #144     Jul 23, 2023

  5. So fucking use options the way YOU want to use them and leave the rest of us out of your fantasy... why shoudl an y one prove anything to you..

    There is not one successful trader whoever feels the need to share anything of significant detail with someone just because they demanded to know. We all share positions and trades but a newbie who comes in screaming "PROVE IT TO ME!" is a fucking child in the trader's world...

    no one here is going to take you seriously... stop the bullshit "oh I thought we have elite traders here..." Yeah..... why the fuck should we educate you anonomously when you come off with such an attitude.

    Gee I wonoder why eveyrone is ripping you a new asshole instead of engaging :)
     
    #145     Jul 23, 2023
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  6. What you want means fuck all to the rest of us....

    Next time try some humilty and respect before you go demanding we prove anything to you.

    "I WANT..."

    I want someone to prove to me they give a fuck about what you want haha
     
    #146     Jul 23, 2023
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  7. destriero

    destriero


    I reduced the trade to the min-ratios.

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    #147     Jul 23, 2023
  8. So what is the probability of Max gain? What do you typically make on this type of trade?
     
    #148     Jul 23, 2023
  9. M.W.

    M.W.

    Oh goodness, you are back. How badly did Baron beg you to come back, after ET turned into another politico website?

    Truth be told, I bet you could not hold onto yourself seeing an options related thread without you in it.

    Welcome back

     
    #149     Jul 24, 2023
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  10. destriero

    destriero

    Probability of max gain is the wrong question to ask. The point is that it costs nothing to hold and any settlement is a (relative) lottery win. The problem is that I am impacting the skew on index.

    Friday SET value came in:
     
    #150     Jul 24, 2023