Are freethinker societies just fronts for homosexual groups?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mike oxbig, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. jem

    jem

    Other than it is one of the oldest institutions known to man, other than it is and identity that has some meaning now....

    In the recent studied of how children are effected by gay marriage.

    The molestation rate was alarmingly high.
    Additionally not a single male couple at the start of the study was still together at the end of the study.

    The institution of marriage does not need to be diluted any further.
    Make a new name for it.
     
    #11     Oct 17, 2012
  2. maxpi

    maxpi

    I don't care about the marriage laws but the idea of encouraging men to f%^k each other in their hairy, stinking, disease ridden @ssholes is revolting.

    There is an ongoing news blackout on the situation in San Francisco with the bath houses and flesh eating bacteria. You can't tell me they did anything about an actual disease now, not with their record on AIDS and all the rest of it...
     
    #12     Oct 17, 2012
  3. jem

    jem

    #13     Oct 17, 2012
  4. pspr

    pspr

    I now pronounce you "Fudgepacker" and "Fudgepackee."

    For lesbians, I now pronounce you "Eggbeaters."
     
    #14     Oct 17, 2012
  5. Look, I don't want to get into an argument with you. But at the same time, that's part of the problem. Decent, caring people don't want to hurt someone's feelings, so they end up being coerced into accepting things they object to. Of course I understand that it used to be the other way, that gays felt constrained to hide their status, which created problems for them.

    I just don't agree with your assessment that government is oppressing gays "liberty" to marry. It's not liberty, since they're largely free to do whatever they want. It's the conferring of a legal status that for most of recorded history has been reserved for heterosexual couples. The burden of persuasion is properly on those who would alter a time-honored tradition, and the fact that being gay is now trendy seems to be a weak argument.

    I see the religious aspect as central, and so do most proponents of same sex marriage. Why do you think there is all this hostility suddenly to organized religion? It's not about abortion because that has been on the table for close to 40 years.

    Liberals like to argue that people shouldn't impose their religious values on others, but like many of their arguments, it is largely a one way street. They don't mind arguing from a religious perspective when it suits them and trying to intimidate christians by doing so. . Obama regularly argues that Jesus' teaching is in line with higher taxes and higher spending. Some argue that envvironmentalism is an expression of the Biblical duty of good stewardship. We are constantly lectured that racism is sinful. Catholic Bishops argue for amnesty for illegal aliens as a religious duty, which just so happens to align with their desire for a bigger congregation.

    So liberals make religious arguments all the time, and in fact, one could argue that most of our laws are based on some sort of moral code, religious or otherwise.
     
    #15     Oct 17, 2012
  6. Thats akin to dropping your cell phone and then deciding "Well, it didnt break, so I better go out and hit it with a hammer now"

    Just because some people drop the ball on the sanctity of marriage, doesnt mean we should go out and and really try to fuck it up.
     
    #16     Oct 17, 2012
  7. #17     Oct 17, 2012
  8. BINGO!
     
    #18     Oct 17, 2012
  9. Some studies have found correlations between physiology of people and their sexuality. These studies provide evidence which they claim suggests that:

    Gay men report, on an average, slightly longer and thicker penises than non-gay men.[50]
    Gay men and straight women have, on average, equally proportioned brain hemispheres. Lesbian women and straight men have, on average, slightly larger right brain hemispheres.[51]
    The VIP SCN nucleus of the hypothalamus is larger in men than in women, and larger in gay men than in heterosexual men.[52]
    The average size of the INAH-3 in the brains of gay men is approximately the same size as INAH 3 in women, which is significantly smaller, and the cells more densely packed, than in heterosexual men's brains.[31]
    The anterior commissure is larger in women than men and was reported to be larger in gay men than in non-gay men,[30] but a subsequent study found no such difference.[53]
    Gay men's brains respond differently to fluoxetine, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.[54]
    The functioning of the inner ear and the central auditory system in lesbians and bisexual women are more like the functional properties found in men than in non-gay women (the researchers argued this finding was consistent with the prenatal hormonal theory of sexual orientation).[55]
    The suprachiasmatic nucleus was found by Swaab and Hopffman to be larger in gay men than in non-gay men,[56] the suprachiasmatic nucleus is also known to be larger in men than in women.[57]
    The startle response (eyeblink following a loud sound) is similarly masculinized in lesbians and bisexual women.[58]
    Gay and non-gay people's brains respond differently to two putative sex pheromones (AND, found in male armpit secretions, and EST, found in female urine).[27][59][60]
    The amygdala, a region of the brain, is more active in gay men than non-gay men when exposed to sexually arousing material.[61]
    Finger length ratios between the index and ring fingers may be different between non-gay and lesbian women.[55][62][63][64][65][66]
    Gay men and lesbians are significantly more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous than non-gay men and women;[67][68][69] Simon LeVay argues that because "[h]and preference is observable before birth[70]... [t]he observation of increased non-right-handness in gay people is therefore consistent with the idea that sexual orientation is influenced by prenatal processes," perhaps heredity.[31]
    A study of 50 gay men found 23% had counterclockwise hair whorl, as opposed to 8% in the general population. This may correlate with left-handedness.[71]
    Gay men have increased ridge density in the fingerprints on their left thumbs and pinkies.[71]
    Length of limbs and hands of gay men is smaller compared to height than the general population, but only among white men.[71]
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    Recent studies suggest the presence of subtle differences in the way gay people and non-gay people process certain kinds of information. Researchers have found that:

    Gay men[72] and lesbians are more verbally fluent than heterosexuals of the same sex[73][74][75] (but two studies did not find this result).[76][77]
    Gay men may receive higher scores than non-gay men on tests of object location memory (no difference was found between lesbians and non-gay women).[78]


    Blanchard and Klassen (1997) reported that each older brother increases the odds of a man being gay by 33%.[21][22] This is now "one of the most reliable epidemiological variables ever identified in the study of sexual orientation."[23] To explain this finding, it has been proposed that male fetuses provoke a maternal immune reaction that becomes stronger with each successive male fetus. This maternal immunization hypothesis (MIH) begins when cells from a male fetus enter the mother's circulation during pregnancy or while giving birth.[24]


    In other words gays are born that way and to deny them the same rights everyone else has is simply heartless, bigoted and morally wrong.

    But of course, we don't expect ignorant rabid righties to understand science stuff. Especially the morons here. They would rather believe a ridiculous Bronze-age collection of myths, half-truths and outright lies that also requires adulterers to be stoned to death.
     
    #19     Oct 17, 2012
  10. Right , those with vagina's like you are called women, those with a penis are called Men.
     
    #20     Oct 17, 2012