Are all mutual funds traded on IB considered "no load"?

clacy · Nov 7, 2016

Zzzz1 said:
Lol, too good to be true? Have you looked at the mediocre performance of mutual funds over the past 20 years? Virtually all of them have underperformed a broad based (tradable) index tracker. You are dancing because you can invest your money in a mediocre fund just because to don't get charged a completely unnecessary fee that should never be charged in the first place?
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Zzzz1 said:
I was specific yet you ignored it. I talked about bond funds yet you replied referring to equity funds. I talked also specifically about no load funds or funds in general that only assess minimum fees because that's what tracking funds should do, they should be cheap. My assertion is that over 20 years hardly any managed bond fund significantly outperformed an index tracking bond fund. Of course should management fees of the managed bond fund be incorporated into the performance result. And when you talk about a managed high yield bond fund then you should compare that with a high yield index and its tracker fund.

My whole point is that managed funds are dying and will be completely gone in less than a decade because they add no value but cost more. They have for decades fed a whole army and subsection of financial services with nice fees in exchange for little to nothing in terms of alpha. The only reason of their existence was lack of alternative choices. Now we have choices and that's reflected in the outflow from managed funds.
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There was nothing in your initial post to denote bond funds. Your first post just say "mutual funds...underperform broad based tradable index tracker..."

Regardless, there are MANY examples in junk bonds and muni junk bonds where the managed funds significantly out-perform the index.

Zzzz1 · Nov 8, 2016

my whole argument is based on bond funds as you can see here...

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...on-ib-considered-no-load.304131/#post-4355091

Yes, anyway, can you name a few that have a 15-20 year performance record?

clacy said:
There was nothing in your initial post to denote bond funds. Your first post just say "mutual funds...underperform broad based tradable index tracker..."

Regardless, there are MANY examples in junk bonds and muni junk bonds where the managed funds significantly out-perform the index.
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Are all mutual funds traded on IB considered "no load"?

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