Arab world in crisis

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Kingofposters, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. The Arab world is suffering a crisis of humiliation. Their armies are routed not only by Americans, but also by tiny, Jewish Israel; and as Arthur Koestler once remarked, the Arab world has not, in the last 500 years or so, produced much besides rugs, dirty postcards, elaborations on the belly-dance esthetic (and, of course, some innovative terrorist practices). They have no science to speak of, no art, hardly any industry save oil, very little literature, and portentous music which consists largely of lugubrious songs celebrating the slaughter of Jews.

    Now that the Arabs have acquired national consciousness, and they compare their societies to other nations, these deficiencies become painfully evident, particularly to the upper-class Arab kids who attend foreign universities. There they learn about the accomplishments of Christians, Jews, (Freud, Einstein, for starters) and women. And yet, with the exception of Edward Said, there is scarcely a contemporary Arab name in the bunch. No wonder, then, that major recruitment to al-Qaeda's ranks takes place among Arab university students. And no wonder that suicide bombing becomes their tactic of choice: it is a last-ditch, desperate way of asserting at least one scrap of superiority—a spiritual superiority—over the materialistic, life-hugging, and ergo shameful West.

  2. Interestingly they (or at least the smartest of them) are finally beginning to realize who their real enemies are:

    Sami Alfaraj, president of the Kuwait Center for Strategic Studies, went on to say that if Iran did acquire a nuclear bomb, Gulf states would appeal to Israel, as well as to the United States and Pakistan, to help ensure their security.

    Countries that could not build their own nuclear weapons would seek a "nuclear umbrella" - even if they had to appeal to Israel, he said.

    "I believe in something on the same Iraqi [Osirak reactor] model... We are assuming in the Gulf that Israel will take it out," Alfaraj told Reuters.
  3. Many believe Microsoft stole gui and mouse from apple and xerox.

    Do you think this means that Bill Gates is part of a zionist conspiracy?
  4. Well, since they want to call attention, we will start letting their threads call attention to their own actions:


    2/20/2008 (Baidoa, Somalia) - Two Ethiopian soldiers standing guard at a market are murdered by Islamic gunmen.
    2/19/2008 (Pattani, Thailand) - A 46-year-old Buddhist man is shot from his motorcyle and then set ablaze by militant Muslims.
    2/19/2008 (Khan Yunis, Gaza) - A 10-year-old boy is killed while being used by Hamas as a human shield to ambush Israeli soldiers.
    2/19/2008 (Baquba, Iraq) - Two children and their parents are shot to death by Islamic terrorists. The family had been displaced.
    2/19/2008 (Baghdad, Iraq) - Six civilians are killed in two Mujahideen bombing attacks.
    2/19/2008 (Kandahar, Afghanistan) - A civilian is killed by a suicide bomber.
  5. THANK GOODNESS our troops are there! These eager young men and women dream of spreading liberation and demoracy. They LOVE r_gheads and "camel jockeys" and spread the utmost respect and peace by using their weapons.

    they would NEVER take revenge against ordinary people. The army holds a free and fair trial for every person detained. That's real democracy....


    UK troops accused of executions and torture in Iraq Reuters
    Published: Friday February 22, 2008


    By Luke Baker

    LONDON, Feb 22 (Reuters) - Lawyers for five Iraqis have accused British soldiers of mass executions and torture and called for a police investigation into an "atrocious episode" in British army history.

    Phil Shiner and Martyn Day, who have brought several cases against the British military for its actions in Iraq, produced statements on Friday from five men who say they were detained by British forces after a battle in southern Iraq in May 2004.

    The men, who were blindfolded and bound, said their captors repeatedly beat and abused them, including forcing them to strip naked. While detained, they said they heard the systematic torture and execution of up to 20 other detainees.

    "On the basis of the evidence currently available, we are of the view that our clients' allegations -- that the British were responsible for the torture and deaths of up to 20 Iraqis -- may well be true," Day told a news conference.

    "Whether or not there is enough evidence to prosecute individual soldiers, it will only be by an open public inquiry that this question will be answered."

    The military has already conducted its own investigation into the events surrounding the intense, two-hour battle between British troops and Iraqi insurgents, in which it says 28 Iraqi fighters were killed, and concluded there was no evidence of criminal wrongdoing.


    Shiner and Day say, on the basis of the witness statements and other evidence, that 29 people were detained, of whom 20 were killed in detention and nine were later freed.

    A second investigation, also by Britain's military police, was opened last December after the families of some of the victims called for a judicial review. It is not known when that investigation will be concluded.

    As well as the witness statements, Shiner and Day produced photos, video footage and death certificates signed by Iraqi doctors that they said together painted a picture of violent, deadly abuse perpetrated by British troops.

    They said there was evidence that two detainees had their eyes gouged out, one had his penis cut off, several were strangled or mutilated, some were shot in the back of the head and others had body parts systematically broken.

    "What went on whilst UK forces had the custody of Iraqi civilians is a disgrace, a stain on our nation, and a terrible stain on the reputation of all the good soldiers who have operated in Iraq," Shiner said.

    However, the lawyers acknowledged there was a vast gulf between the British military's account of what happened and the witnesses' accounts. They also said they did not know which regiment of the British army was most likely responsible.

    "For the Iraqi version of events to be true, soldiers and officers from the British army would have to have conspired to cover up one of the most atrocious episodes in British army history," Day said.

    As well as a public inquiry, the lawyers called for the investigation to be handed over to Britain's regular police force, rather than the military police investigating its own. (Editing by Alison Williams)