Apple stock

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by SouthAmerica, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. February 15, 2015

    SouthAmerica: Apple Inc. (AAPL) and the "La La Land of Wall Street"

    Apple Inc. (AAPL)

    Market Cap: 489.19B

    Today Apple shares traded at US$ 526 per share giving this company a market cap of US$ 489 billion dollars.

    This is a stock that might be trading at US$ 50 per share or even lower when the magic of Steve Jobs fades away, and people start realizing that Steve Jobs is not coming back for act III at Apple.

    The magic is gone from Apple and is not returning – today Apple is just another technology company after the death of its wizard and real genius – Steve Jobs.

    Slowly people will start coming back to reality and they will realize that Steve Job has made his final curtain call, and many of Apple's high caliber people will start moving out to new high-tech companies - the new leading edge technology companies, and Apple would become just another high tech company like everybody else.

    We don't know how fast this transition will take place, but the reality is in a few years Apple stock can be trading even around US$ 15 per share as it did just a few years ago.

  2. February 15, 2012

    SouthAmerica: Reply to Nine_Ender

    We will go back to this post in a few years to check who's right.....

    Technological advances are made today faster than at any time in the past.

    Steve Jobs had a special brain power for innovation that can't be replaced - it does not matter how bright the people who work at Apple are.

    You can't replace the genius of a Steve Jobs - it can't be done!!!!!!!!!!!

    Silicon Valley is full of very smart people, but Steve Jobs was a very special case, and we don't have many genius like him around the world - he was one in a billion.

  3. ?.... ! .... it must be an equally good time to short-sell some EWZ. :D :p :cool:
  4. February 15, 2012

    SouthAmerica: Reality check regarding innovation and the United States.


    Here is an excellent lecture about innovation, that gives in detail the reasons why the United States is falling behind many countries in real innovation.

    Americans think that they still are number 1 in the world regarding innovation, but the reality is another story.

    Falling Behind: U.S. Competitiveness in a High-Tech World

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    Time: 1 hr. 10 min.

    Robert Atkinsons talk will focus on the United States losing its international economic competitiveness as it falls behind in advanced technologies and the forthcoming green tech revolution. A New College alumnus, he is the founder and president of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation, a Washington, DC-based technology policy think tank.

    Atkinson is the author of The Past and Future of America's Economy: Long Waves of Innovation that Drive Cycles of Growth and the State New Economy Index series. He is chair of the Congressionally-created National Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing Commission and was appointed by President Clinton to the Commission on Workers, Communities, and Economic Change in the New Economy. Before starting ITIF, Atkinson was Vice President of the Progressive Policy Institute and Director of PPIs Technology & New Economy Project.

  5. February 15, 2012

    SouthAmerica: Since I posted the above information here on ET around 12 noon time today when Apple stock was trading around US$ 526 per share and the market cap was around US$ 490 billion dollars - the price of this stock moved down and closed at US$ 497 per share and the market cap went down to around US$ 464 billion dollars.

    The price of the stock went down US$ 29 per share and Apple also lost US$ 26 billion dollars in market cap value.

    And all that happened in a period of 4 hours.

    Talking about La La Land.....

  6. Shanb


    AAPL had this reversal today because it was simply technically overbought...don't get too excited about your analysis. lets see where it is trading a couple months from now lol
  7. The guys another moron like Grand_Stuper_Cycle, seeking attention by posting ridiculously grandiose theories. Funny how most of these guys are permabears. Kind of a hangover from 2008 that these guys exist.
  8. February 15, 2012

    SouthAmerica: Reply to Shanb

    I don't know for how long the products created by Steve Jobs will be able to make a ton of money for Apple.

    Innovation and new products by other companies in the near future also will cannibalize the high profit margin of current Apple products.

    Steve Jobs left behind some new products that are in the pipeline - but after that the party is over for Apple as the outstanding company that we have known for all these years.

    What we have here is milk this baby as long as it lasts - after that who knows what is in store for the new Apple without Steve Jobs?

    The value of Apple stock will decline accordingly to the cash flow generated by these Steve Jobs products, and the speed that they get replaced by new technologies and innovation of other companies.

    To get down to the US$ 50 - US$ 15 price range per share it might take about 3 years or even less depending on the rate of innovation and replacement of these Apple/Steve Jobs products.

  9. Your concept that Jobs did everything at AAPL is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. Especially given Jobs' history and the early days of AAPL ( which I take you don't even know about ). Large corporations are beasts, the guy at the top is only a small part of the puzzle.

    How did Next Computers do ? Apparently, just having Jobs wasn't a guarantee of success.

    I remember when Jobs first got sick, and this site was full of trader wanabees like yourself predicting the end of AAPL. That was quite some time ago, and AAPL has done nothng but grow since then ( market share up, earnings up, stock price up ). Were the shares not under $300 at the time ?
  10. February 15, 2012

    SouthAmerica: Reply to Nine Ender

    I remember the rise of Apple from a garage start up to a first rate technology company.

    Then I remember when Steve Jobs was kicked out of Apple, and Apple went nowhere for many years.

    Then he came back to Apple and the magic returned to Apple, and thanks to Steve Jobs Apple created all these new products that make Apple so profitable today.

    Steve Jobs has been the source of Apple's outstanding product line and innovation.

    Now he is gone forever!!!!!!!

    And he took his magic with him.....

    #10     Feb 15, 2012