Apple Earnings play

Discussion in 'Options' started by Optrader1, Apr 21, 2008.

  1. esu2

    esu2

    fly..
    can you elaborate ?
    sell 140 calls... and then what ?
     
    #21     Apr 22, 2008
  2. You can easily buy it for your fair value. Like I said I am not really an AAPL vol seller and not likely anyone but retail paying 15 cents above perceived fair value for it.

    If you buy the fly you're buying the wings and selling the meat, net short vega.
     
    #22     Apr 22, 2008
  3. I was pricing the May 140/160/180 call fly, but you could sell the May 160 straddle and buy the May 140/180 strangle. The risk on the position is $6.00 on a break of 140 or 180.
     
    #23     Apr 22, 2008
  4. I got the Jan 09, because as explained I am planning on holding those after earnings and selling premium against them every month.
    I got July for the long puts, because these should keep some IV due to events in between.
     
    #24     Apr 22, 2008
  5. esu2

    esu2

    is this the butterfly you are referring to ?
     
    #25     Apr 22, 2008
  6. Atticus, what you are proposing, which is buying a stangle/straddle and selling one is pretty much what I am doing in spirit. The only difference is that you are doing everything front month and I am getting Jan and July on the long side.
    My question is why would you go front month on your longs when IV is going to drop more than on the farther-out?
     
    #26     Apr 22, 2008
  7. You're really not. You're long vol. These diagonals are simply long time spreads. That difference [vertical vs horizontal] is what causes modality to flip on vega.
     
    #27     Apr 22, 2008
  8. "You're really not. You're long vol. These diagonals are simply long time spreads. That difference [vertical vs horizontal] is what causes modality to flip on vega."

    Ok, you lost me LOL
     
    #28     Apr 22, 2008
  9. Trading duration flips it from short to long vega.
     
    #29     Apr 22, 2008
  10. may/june/july time fly ( credit 80c ) is a low risk trade here
     
    #30     Apr 22, 2008