Apparently the U.S. has taken out Iran's Quds General

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Jan 2, 2020.

  1. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    How many US Olympians and sports champs have stated they hate Trump?
     
    #141     Jan 12, 2020
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    How many have claimed they are oppressed? How many have defected? And how many have ever said this?

    "They took me wherever they wanted. I wore whatever they said. Every sentence they ordered me to say, I repeated. Whenever they saw fit, they exploited me," she wrote, adding that credit for her success always went to those in charge.
    "I wasn't important to them. None of us mattered to them, we were tools," Alizadeh added, explaining that while the regime celebrated her medals, it criticized the sport she had chosen: "The virtue of a woman is not to stretch her legs!"
     
    #142     Jan 12, 2020
  3. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    First there was the economy which Ford had nothing to do with. Carter came out with 'the misery index' which coupled unemployment figures and high interest rates and ran with it. (Note: he didn't fix it in 1980 and lost. We have a Maga economy now)

    Ford also pardoned Nixon without giving any rationalization. That pissed everyone off.
    Reagan really made Ford look bad in the primaries.
    Oh and btw... Reagan was way below 50% approval in '83. He won a landslide in '84.
    And last but not least was his famous gaffe during the debates which ended it for him.
    (And even at that... it was close af when the results came in. 40.8 to 39.1 popular vote)
    This did it in the end:

     
    #143     Jan 12, 2020

  4. Ford is a "special case" in regard to incumbent presidents. He assumed the Oval Office without ever receiving a single vote from a citizen voter anywhere, anytime in a primary or in the general, at least for the presidency. NOT ONE VOTE.

    So he came in with a weakened base. ie. he had none. ZERO citizens voted for him- for president.

    Also, as I stated, the other part of the equation is the opposing candidate. While history shows that Carter was a weak, lousy president he nevertheless put a strong campaign strategy together and made it work. He entered the race as a low-name recognition candidate but elevated himself right off and won Iowa and NH right off to get er going- and built a coalition as he went along and made the kill. As lousy as he was, it was far, far better than what the dems are facing in this cycle. Probably the first four primaries will be split between four candidates and there are two vastly divided wings in the party, and the chances of going to a brokered convention are quite good. In other words, a complete mess. So Ford had no real legitimacy with voters because they never voted for him, not even as Vice President, and was highly vulnerable.
     
    #144     Jan 12, 2020
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Many athletes have shown and stated their disdain from Trump.Lebron, Megan Rapinoe,all the teams that refuse to visit the white house etc.
     
    #145     Jan 12, 2020
  6. I am not even sure what defecting from the United States would look like.

    "I am going to buy a ticket and go to another country and I am not coming back."

    Ahh okay. Have a nice day. Enjoy. Not a prob unless you are fleeing prosecution or something.

    Doesnt work that way in Iran. You defect and then they come after your family just to send you a message.
     
    #146     Jan 12, 2020
  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Im getting tired of schooling you Vanny.

    Reagans first term average was 50.3,Trumps is 40


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    In 84 Reagan was above 50,a number Trump has never reached in Gallup or aggregate polling.1984 election time he was at 58%,a number Trump can only dream of


    His ratings moved back above 50% by November 1983 -- not only because the economy was picking up, but also in part as a result of rally effects associated with the U.S. invasion of Grenada and the terrorist explosion that killed 241 American Marines in Beirut, Lebanon.

    By 1984, Reagan's job approval ratings were consistently above the 50% line that is a symbolic standard for an incumbent president seeking re-election. In Gallup's last October poll before the November 1984 election, Reagan received a 58% job approval rating, and he went on to soundly defeat Democratic nominee Walter Mondale by a 59% to 41% popular vote margin, receiving 525 electoral votes to Mondale's 13.
     
    #147     Jan 12, 2020
  8. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Yeah I meant to point this out the other day too... the fact that Steyer is moving up in the rankings... that speaks volumes about just how disillusioned the Dem base is right now. Hell we are less than 9 months out and they are floundering.

    Quick OT question btw since we are on the subject of VP's becoming president... if a VP takes over, can he still run for 2 more complete terms? So had Ford won in '76, could he have run in '80 too? So in theory, say a President dies one month into office.... can the Veep theoretically be in office for 143 months?
     
    #148     Jan 12, 2020
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    It was still below 50 in 83 at one point. Pay attention when you read. Trump is moving up daily. 9 months left. Even Reagan is smiling.
     
    #149     Jan 12, 2020
  10. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Trump has pissed more people off than Ford ever did.
     
    #150     Jan 12, 2020