AOC - can she get any dumber

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    Why?
     
    #971     Dec 30, 2021
  2. Mike Lee of Utah for prez. Tim Scott of SC for vp.

    Note that you asked who I would like to see run. I did not say who I think will run. Both the dems and the pubs, however will go with the lowest common denominator as usual- whatever the 2024 version of that is.
     
    #972     Dec 30, 2021

  3. the fact that you mentioned Cruz makes me question your judgement...
     
    #973     Dec 30, 2021
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    I was just throwing the out names that came to mind. I'm sure he'll be in the mix.
     
    #974     Dec 30, 2021
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    To teach fiscal responsibility.
    Here we go again.


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    #975     Dec 30, 2021
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  6. Arnie

    Arnie

    #976     Dec 30, 2021
  7. UsualName

    UsualName


    Until a year or so ago, in NJ we would suspend your driver’s license for reasons ranging from failure to pay child support or show up for a Jay walking ticket. The idea was to penalize people with license suspensions to teach them responsibilities. It became so that over 90% of license suspensions were not related to moving violations. And as it turned out suspending people’s licenses was counterproductive because it would lead to more penalties such as driving while suspended and have other consequences like loss of a job which ironically led to people not being able to pay fines etc.

    Turns out the scheme was stupid and became a money squeeze on poor people and people in difficult circumstances. No one benefitted.

    The point is sometimes we think we are teaching people responsibility when we’re not and we just harming people.
     
    #977     Dec 30, 2021
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  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    "War on drugs", contraceptives, abortion, and bail system comes to mind
     
    #978     Dec 30, 2021
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Yeah, everything you said is true. Most states still do this, but what if there were no laws like this at all? Do you think dirt-balls would all the sudden pay their child support? No. So you have to do something.
    I don't have a solution. No one does.
    The court system is one giant insatiable machine and the only ones that win are the lawyers.

    The stuff you wrote, it's only gonna get worse too. One of the stocks I follow keeps getting more and more contracts with cities across the nation. They provide software that ties into existing traffic and public safety cameras and their database has access to literally everything including all DMV, insurance companies, and the nationwide bench warrant system. In a nutshell, imagine a traffic stop where everything about you is checked, even the vin # and color of the car. Now imagine the depth of that traffic stop being conducted real-time at every intersection you drive thru by AI. Their system's even pick up erratic driving and although they don't talk about it, I'm sure they're using facial recognition where the various cameras permit.

    The minute their system flags anything, even an expired insurance policy or a tag that doesn't match the car, that information is sent to nearby LE and it's game over for that driver. Every week this company does a press release heralding some new city that signed up. It's the way things are now I guess, you either play by the rules or you feed that insatiable pig, and yes it does ruin more lives by placing folks in deeper and deeper holes that they'll never get out of. I've seen plenty.
     
    #979     Dec 30, 2021
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Yes. This approach to American policy is directly from Calvinism. The concept that the poor and misfortunate were out of favor with the divinity. Thus poverty is treated as a crime in America, ie punish the poor for the circumstances of poverty.

    * I should add that modern Calvinism dejected this philosophy some time ago and does not support a punitive approach to poverty however this is the legacy of a large amount of our legal system.
     
    #980     Dec 30, 2021