AOC - can she get any dumber

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. It's complicated and more than can be covered in quick posts.

    Basically, as we know, the feds own most of the land in the west, including of course beaucoup of the forest land.

    Naturally, there have been unlimited calls by the states to return that land to the states over the years, which has not happened. But in the attempts to assuage and tamp down this issue over the decades the feds have entered into sort of "home rule" type of agreements with the states delegating management to the states, including forest management, and related revenue receipts, etc, while technically retaining ownership and the right to approve or disapprove of practices that have been delegated to the states.

    So it makes the finger pointing game a nightmare unless you put the actual state and area under the microscope to see who is running the show. Some people blame the feds but barking about how it fed land, except the feds delegated management to the states in response to state and environmentalist who thought they could have more influence with the states. Or they may blame a state, but in actuality it might be an area that is still totally or mostly controlled by the feds even though it carries the name of State Park because the recreational aspects etc are state run. Complicated.

    Then you have- as in the western states- disasters related to the fact that the electrical power companies have forest management rights where the impact on utilities is an issue. Thus you have frigging power companies such as Pacific Power and PG&E paying out multi-gazillion dollar settlements for burning significant numbers of towns down (think Paradise, CA) through their failure to manage forest and brushland around their power grids or letting their grids get overloaded to the point where they are a fire danger. And all of their authority and responsibility to manage forest and range land is a different set of laws and regs (both fed and state) than those that I described above related to basic forestry management on fed lands, and state lands, and hybrid agreements between feds and states.

    Yeh. You dont want to try to fit some of this on a bumper sticker.
     
    #771     Jun 29, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    AOC brushes off concerns over surging NYC crime as ‘hysteria’
    https://nypost.com/2021/06/29/aoc-brushes-off-concerns-over-surging-nyc-crime-as-hysteria/

    It’s not like any of the shootings that have New Yorkers panicked are taking place in AOC’s backyard — oh wait, they are.

    US Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) sparked outrage Tuesday for dismissing concerns about surging crime as “hysteria.”

    The Bronx-Queens congresswoman, a far-left progressive routinely referred to by her initials, AOC, made the remark during a Zoom chat with freshman US Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY), a fellow proponent of the “Defund the police” movement who represents the Bronx and Westchester.

    “We are seeing these headlines about percentage increases,” Ocasio-Cortez said, reducing recent incidents such as a tourist shot in broad daylight in Times Square and kids ducking for cover amid a gang shooting in the Bronx to mere statistics.

    “Now I want to say that any amount of harm is unacceptable and too much. But I also want to make sure that this hysteria, you know, that this doesn’t drive a hysteria and that we look at these numbers in context so that we can make responsible decisions about what to allocate in that context.”


    Bronx City Councilman Ruben Diaz Sr. on Tuesday blasted Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks and said she “is wrong.”


    “The crime increase is a crisis,” said Diaz, a fellow Democrat
    .

    “She should talk to the senior citizens in the Bronx who are afraid to come out of their house. She should talk to the mothers whose kids were killed by gun violence.”


    Ocasio-Cortez’s remarks also contradicted the results of a recent poll commissioned by The Post that found opposition to defunding the police was strongest in the crime-ridden Bronx, where more than 60 percent of respondents disapproved of last year’s slashing of $1 billion from the NYPD budget.


    The National Fraternal Order of Police also said Ocasio-Cortez “said the quiet part out loud: the Narrative Matters More to her than Peoples’ Lives.”


    “Dismissing the #CrimeCrisis across the country, saying it’s just ‘hysteria,’ is textbook #Gaslighting,” the group tweeted.

    “@AOC, those ‘percentage increases’ are Mothers, Fathers, Sons & Daughters.”

    Figures posted by the FOP show massive increases in homicide rates in various cities this year compared to the same period two years ago, including 50 percent in New York City, 66 percent in Philadelphia, 44 percent in Atlanta and 33 percent in Chicago.

    Meanwhile, Portland, Ore. — which was wracked by riots following last year’s police murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis — has seen homicides skyrocket 138 percent since 2019 and 533 percent since last year, according to the FOP.

    Ocasio-Cortez’s comments were posted online Sunday, the same day a newlywed US Marine was wounded by a stray bullet in Times Square, marking the second such incident in the past two months.

    US Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY), who represents Staten Island and Brooklyn, blasted Ocasio-Cortez as a “hypocrite.”

    “Easy for AOC to say…she walks around with a security detail while trying to deny her constituents police protection on our streets and our subways,” Malliotakis tweeted.

    Other critics included Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald, who noted that Ocasio-Cortez — a proponent of the “Defund the police” movement — “just acted to ensure $2 billion more in spending” on the Capitol Police by voting “present” instead of “no” on a bill that passed the House 213-212 vote last month.

    “AOC is mocking ordinary people as ‘hysterical’ who are afraid of violent crime in their neighborhood: people who, unlike her, don’t have reams of private security,” Greenwald tweeted.
     
    #772     Jun 30, 2021
  3. I told you..... she is not relevant... even in her own state they are fed up with her.

    I think FOX News can stop parading her around as the leader of the party as though everything she says is what Biden, Pelosi and Schumer are touting as the party platform.

    She is like the college freshman that becomes student body president and actually thinks they have any power or say in the matter...
     
    #773     Jun 30, 2021
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    It's the NYPost so they're probably lying w/reframing, didn't bother to read. Chuckie had to go all progressive to avoid AOC coming for his seat. She may be powerless, but no, people aren't getting fed up. It's why she handed your girl Cabrera her ass.
     
    #774     Jun 30, 2021

  5. Cabrerra came out to challenge at the wrong time, AOC still very popular in her community and Cabrerra was trying to beat her up on the national stage. No one outside AOC district cares what people have to say since only those people vote.

    trust me..... AOC's effect is dwindling even more with every stupid proclamation that comes out of her mouth. She just insulted all the victims of crime in her own city while asking for more money to defend her rich ass sitting in the capitol building. Defund the police..... but just not the police that protect her.
     
    #775     Jun 30, 2021
  6. elderado

    elderado

    Why does she want to shut down just one plant? Wouldn't shutting them all down be greener?

     
    #776     Jul 2, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #777     Jul 3, 2021

  8. When Michael Phelps had a social media picture of him smoking weed, not a positive test during a meet but just on social media, he was banned for 5-6 months I think and several sponsors dropped him immediately after.

    She just got a 30 day ban....seems about right for the punishment.

    Now we can argue it is stupid to have weed on the banned list and that is a better argument since it is not performance enhancing but just lay off the bong when you are trying to make the Olympics.
     
    #778     Jul 3, 2021
    Overnight and gwb-trading like this.
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #779     Jul 4, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    AOC silent as DSA appears to back Cuba's communist regime over protesters
    Ocasio-Cortez is one of four Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) members in Congress
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-cuba-protests-democratic-socialists.amp

    New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and three other House Democrats affiliated with the far-left Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) have so far remained silent while the DSA appears to back Cuba's communist regime against protesters demanding freedom.

    Ocasio-Cortez, Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, New York Rep. Jamaal Bowman and Missouri Rep. Cori Bush make up the four DSA members in Congress. All four members have yet to speak out about the ongoing protests in Cuba and none of their offices returned Fox News' requests for comment by press time.

    The DSA International Committee on Monday declared its solidarity with the "Revolution" – the term used by the communist regime – "in this moment of unrest." The DSA's national arm also echoed Cuba's president in blaming America's trade embargo with the communist regime for the unrest.

    The DSA didn't return Fox News' request for comment by time of publication.

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, broke his silence on the Cuban protests in a late-night tweet Monday that urged the Cuban government to "refrain from violence" while criticizing the U.S. for its embargo.

    Cuba isn't the only socialist regime to receive positive treatment from the DSA.

    Earlier this month, a DSA delegation met with Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro, who tweeted photos from the meeting.

     
    #780     Jul 14, 2021