AOC - can she get any dumber

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Yes, Missouri has a history of electing black women
    Weirdly, I was assured on this very board that the hand picked dems would topple commie AOC and terrorist Ilhan Omar.
     
    #121     Nov 8, 2020
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  2. Is your point that they elected a black woman or a progressive? Doesn't Cori Bush represent inner city St. Louis? She beat an incumbent black man in the primary. Why would I think a black woman couldn't get elected there?
     
    #122     Nov 8, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The St. Louis 1st Congressional district is 99.21% urban and 49.3% black. All the holders of the Congressional seat since 1969 have been black Democrats.

    It has only elected Democrats since 1949 with a 72% or large margin in every election -- prior to Lori Bush winning the recent general election. She won 78.9% of the vote in this urban Democratic stronghold in St. Louis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri's_1st_congressional_district
     
    #123     Nov 8, 2020
  4. The results of the Justice Democrats:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Democrats

    They couldn't beat Republican governors in either VT or MD (not exactly unwinnable states for Democrats). They haven't gotten past a primary in a Senate seat. Let's go by every House seat they won and compare it to the 2016 presidential election:
    AZ3- Clinton+29
    CA17- Clinton+53
    MA7- Clinton+72
    MI13- Clinton+61
    MN5- Clinton+55
    NY14- Clinton +57
    WA7- Clinton +70

    So a grand total of one win where the margin was less than +50 Clinton over Trump. Those were the results before 2020.
     
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    #124     Nov 8, 2020
  5. For 2020 additions:
    IL3- Clinton +15
    MO1- Clinton +58
    NY14- Clinton +57
    NY16- Clinton +53

    So now we got 2 races under Clinton +50 that progressives have won. There was one race in 2020 where Trump barely won in 2016. That was in NE2. Biden won and Eastman lost by 5. My recommendation is to stop watching TYT. They are delusional and can't accept that their candidates are too far to the left to win the majority of Americans.
     
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    #125     Nov 8, 2020
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  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    stats for the non-prog dem districts lost? TYT is fine, I like to trigger peeps here so I post them, generally because the MSM vid snippets I time stamp are too much of pain in the ass to comb through the original sources. I recommend you click on the vids posted b4 recommending what others watch or don't watch.

    I'm a moderate, but the dems are weak and don't deliver and are now siding w/a never trumper take over that does not align with moderate view points. The progs are popular, no amount of hate is going to counter that fact even if my beliefs don't align with them 100%

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    #126     Nov 8, 2020
  7. I cannot give stats for each district. It would take too long to look them all up. The Democratic House percentage overall looks to be about in line with the popular vote. What I'm seeing overall is that House Republicans are slightly outperforming Trump. While the vast majority of voters vote in lockstep, this is because there's more Republicans voting Biden and Republicans down ballot than Democrats voting Trump and Democrats down ballot. The latter is basically non-existent. The picture will be clearer when the races are finalized. Then we can find the gaps between progressives and moderates. The gap between Eastman and Biden is pretty large.
     
    #127     Nov 8, 2020
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  8. Another race where the DCCC got involved was NY24. That was a Clinton+4 district, but right now Katko (R) is winning by over 20 points.
     
    #128     Nov 8, 2020
  9. A lot of progressive policies are popular. The slogans "defund the police" and "democratic socialism" are losers. Medicare For All is generically popular until you break it down. Also the people who actually vote tend to be older/more right leaning than the generic registered voter.
     
    #129     Nov 8, 2020
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Katie Porter held on to her red district w/a 20 point lead.



    I agree that they have a problem of embracing the branding slapped on by right wing outlets. Though I'm not conceding that said labels caused them votes w/o having hard data.
     
    #130     Nov 8, 2020