Here is something I copied into a personal "Trading Risk" folder of mine while back. It is a little outdated, so maybe there rules have changed but it gives an idea of the procedure I guess:- CFTC Letter No. 99-68 December 16, 1999 Other Written Communication Division of Trading & Markets Dear : This is in response to your inquiry that we received September 8, 1999, regarding the impact on customers when a commodity futures brokerage firm or clearing firm becomes insolvent. Recognizing that the laws and regulations governing the insolvency of such companies are quite complex, the following discussion is intended to be a practical explanation of the basic principles relevant to your questions rather than an exhaustive, technical legal analysis. In your letter you stated that you have opened a commodity account with a "Chicago Company" and a "California Company." You did not indicate the precise nature of these companies, but we assume that each is a futures commission merchant ("FCM") registered with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (the "CFTC"). As a general matter, the laws and regulations governing the insolvency of FCMs and clearing firms are designed to minimize losses to customers by providing certain protections to customer accounts. These protections include requiring the segregation of customer funds from those belonging to the FCM or clearing firm, giving priority to the claims of customers, and expansively defining the category of property that may be considered "customer property" subject to a customer's claim. (Please note that such protections do not include account insurance of the type provided by the Securities Investor Protection Corporation for securities accounts.) Despite the various legal protections afforded to customer accounts, there may be circumstances when the insolvency of an FCM or clearing firm could cause an FCM customer to lose some or all of the funds or other assets the FCM has received from or holds on behalf of that customer. However, there have been very few FCM insolvencies over the years and, even in those few cases, resulting customer losses have been very limited. Our responses to your specific questions follow: 1. What happens to the cash in my account? The Commodity Exchange Act requires that funds deposited by a customer with an FCM be maintained in a "segregated" account for the exclusive benefit of the depositing customer. The term "segregated" refers to separating the funds of all the customers (treated as a class) from the FCM's own funds (sometimes referred to as "proprietary" funds) which the FCM uses in its own operations. If an FCM became insolvent, the FCM would be prohibited from using "customer property" to pay obligations it owes to persons other than its commodity customers. (The term "customer property" includes cash, securities or other property received, acquired or held by the FCM to margin, guarantee, secure, purchase or sell a commodity contract for a customer, as well as an open commodity contract itself.) The "segregated" funds held for customer accounts should remain intact and the customers would be protected from the FCM's insolvency. Generally, in such circumstances, cash in customer accounts is promptly transferred, along with the customers' open positions, to a solvent FCM even before a trustee is appointed to administer the bankruptcy. After such a transfer takes place, the customer is free to transfer his funds and open positions to the FCM of his choice. If an FCM became insolvent, and there also happened to be a shortfall in the amount of funds segregated for customers (for example, because of a customer default), customers would not be protected from the FCM's insolvency. Customers would have a claim against those assets of the FCM which are deemed to be customer property. The claims of FCM customers would take priority over all claims other than those attributable to the administration of customer property. Distributions of customer property would be made on a pro rata basis to each customer. 2. What happens to open positions in my account? If there were no shortfall in the amount of funds segregated for customers, generally the customers' open positions would be transferred to another FCM as quickly as possible. If, however, there were a shortfall, then the open positions could be liquidated (if there were not enough margin to support a position) or could remain open (if there were enough margin, including additional margin provided by a customer). If a position were liquidated, any proceeds from the liquidation would become part of the overall customer property distributed to all customers on a pro rata basis. 3. What happens to Treasury Bills purchased for my account but in the name of the commodity company? If there were no shortfall in the amount of funds segregated for customers, then the Treasury bills held for a particular customer would be transferred to another FCM along with the customer's cash margin and open positions. If there were a shortfall in the amount of funds segregated for customers, Treasury bills purchased for a particular customer's account would be deemed to be "customer property" and would be sold. The proceeds from the sale would be combined with other segregated cash and would be distributed to all customers on a pro rata basis. 4. What happens if the Clearing Firm goes bankrupt? An FCM can be either a clearing member of an exchange (a "clearing FCM") or a non-clearing member of an exchange (a "non-clearing FCM"). A non-clearing FCM clears trades through another FCM that is a clearing FCM (another way of looking at this is that the non-clearing FCM is the direct "customer" of the clearing FCM). We assume that your reference to a "clearing firm" refers to a clearing FCM that is clearing trades for a non-clearing FCM. The principles discussed above in response to questions 1, 2 and 3 are also applicable to the insolvency of a clearing FCM. Thus, if a clearing FCM became insolvent and there were no shortfall in the amount of funds segregated for its customers (which could include individuals and non-clearing FCMs), the funds of its customers would be protected from the clearing FCM's insolvency. If, however, a clearing FCM became insolvent and there were a shortfall in the amount of funds segregated for its customers, the funds of its customers would not be protected from the clearing FCM's insolvency. In that case, each customer (including non-clearing FCMs) would receive a distribution of customer property on a pro rata basis. As an example, let us assume that you are a customer of the California Company (a non-clearing FCM), and that the California Company has deposited some of your customer funds with a clearing FCM. (The California Company would be the direct customer of the clearing FCM.) If the clearing FCM becomes insolvent because it is unable to cover its obligations to one or more of its direct customers, the California Company should be responsible for covering its obligations to its customers (including yourself). If the California Company has financial resources that can absorb whatever losses it might incur as a result of the clearing FCM's insolvency, the clearing FCM's insolvency should not result in a loss to the California Company's customers. However, if the California Company does not have sufficient financial resources to absorb the losses that it incurs as a result of the clearing FCM's insolvency, there might be a "domino effect" whereby the insolvency of the clearing FCM will cause the insolvency of the California Company which may, in turn, result in a loss to the California Company's customers, including yourself. The federal Bankruptcy Code, the Commodity Exchange Act and the CFTC rules are intended to minimize the likelihood of such a domino effect, and past experience has shown that they are highly effective in doing this. The CFTC considers the protection of customer funds to be one of its highest priorities, and we encourage investors to become knowledgeable about the potential risks and rewards of trading on commodity futures and options markets. For your further information, we have enclosed a brochure, "Futures And Options-What You Should Know Before You Trade," which you may find of interest. Should you have additional questions regarding the general principles discussed in this letter, please contact me at (202) 418-5430. Should you have specific questions relating to your particular circumstances, you may wish to contact a private attorney. We hope you find this letter responsive to your inquiry. Sincerely, Phyllis Dietz Staff Attorney
Anyone had any luck transferring positions and cash to another broker? I have an account much bigger than don miller at MF and have got nowhere... please post any contacts or anything that might help.
There are various links on the internet that say SIPC appointed a trustee yesterday during the MFG bankruptcy. MFGlobal according their website also did Stock brokerage. I presume the SIPC trustee is only handling the accounts that are subject to SIPC protection and not the futures accounts. If so, then perhaps there is another Trustee appointed by another regulator to handle the segregated futures (and other non securities) customers accounts? Or perhaps the SIPC trustee is handling them all but only making the SIPC protected accounts whole, the other accounts are returned to customers on a pro rata basis if there is a shortfall? http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/10/31/sipc-to-appoint-trustee-to-take-over-mf-globals-brokerage/
I am a small fry. I have failed to either remove or transfer any of my funds. I received an email that my IB that they attempted to get everything moved to RJ O'Brien. That hadn't worked yet.
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/mfgstatement "The SEC and CFTC have determined that a SIPC-led bankruptcy proceeding would be the safest and most prudent course of action to protect customer accounts and assets. SIPC announced today that it is initiating the liquidation of MF Global under the Securities Investor Protection Act (SIPA).â Based on that it seems the SIPC trustee is on the job for everyone including non SIPC protected accounts, and the CFTC have approved that.
I hope your correct. It is a segregated futures account and 500k protection is peanuts on a large account. Please keep posting more info as you get it as MF is not answering their phones...
All MF Global Funds Accounted For, Held by Brokerage http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...ed-for-lawyer-tells-u-s-bankruptcy-court.html
who is your IB? Secondly what do you think has more chances of happening? MFGlobal returning our funds or moving them to another firm?
The 500K protection wouldnt cover futures accounts anyway. From what previous posters have posted Futures accounts will get pro rata payments, if there is a 10% total shortfall, everyone gets 90% in the dollar etc. But the SIPC covered stock accounts get made whole up the legal limits. Based on my previous post, it seems that the CFTC are happy for the SIPC trustee to lead in sorting the whole mess out, including the futures accounts.