Anyone been trading SSF since they started on Friday?

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by swoop[TR], Nov 11, 2002.

  1. I watched QQQ INTC and MSFT futures it's pretty liquid it seems. As mentioned 5-6 cent spread, but it's not active enough sometimes there is no trade for 30 minutes. I don't think you see full depth with IB but it looks perfectly OK for 3-10 contracts per trade. Now you have to see how they behave in fast market.
     
    #11     Nov 12, 2002
  2. They do have lead market makers, though. perhaps you were thinking of that.
     
    #12     Nov 12, 2002
  3. until someone actually puts up size, and more stable economic times, trends, profits, dividends and chart patterns return, they're really not going to be that useful...
     
    #13     Nov 12, 2002
  4. JohnM

    JohnM

    Nasdaq Liffe is supposedly more liquid. You may want to try trading them there if you have access
     
    #14     Nov 12, 2002
  5. Shaman

    Shaman

    I have been trading MSFT on both markets the last 2 days.

    The spreads do suck and since volume is so low you are at the MM's mercy. but the size the MM's show is real and can be bought/sold into. (they will show 20 contracts). My fills have been immediate but at the cost of buying the ask/selling the bid. um... for a guy like me with a sub 25k account i cant complain about ssf's, better volume chopping these spreads down would be great and make trading easier but right now they can be traded and money can be made so i am happy.
     
    #15     Nov 12, 2002
  6. after the news came out ...

    usually had to lift offers or hit bids

    but still made a few $

    One Chicago was the exchange

    considering the volume MO did afer the news

    I think the volume in MO's SSF was puny.

    maybe down the road ... things will pick up
     
    #16     Nov 12, 2002
  7. Spark

    Spark

    " I have been trading MSFT on both markets the last 2 days.

    The spreads do suck and since volume is so low you are at the MM's mercy. but the size the MM's show is real and can be bought/sold into. (they will show 20 contracts). My fills have been immediate but at the cost of buying the ask/selling the bid. um... for a guy like me with a sub 25k account i cant complain about ssf's, better volume chopping these spreads down would be great and make trading easier but right now they can be traded and money can be made so i am happy."

    You are lucky that your trade was instantly executed buy on ask, and sell on bid. I did same for MSFT but it took over a minute to get it executed. I initially felt like if there is a specialist as in NYSE traded stocks. I am not sure if this is the usual mechanism of trading ssfs!! I was expecting the execution speed like that in Globex.
    Hope things will improve over time.











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    #17     Nov 12, 2002
  8. JORGE

    JORGE

    I have not looked into SSF's, but I noticed there was about a .40-.50 difference between MO stock and MO future at the end of the day. What was that spread like when the news hit and did you notice much of a change in that spread as the day went on?
     
    #18     Nov 13, 2002
  9. sounds like good results so far. I'm getting more interested, but I will wait until after new years for the volume to pick up.
     
    #19     Nov 13, 2002
  10. m22au

    m22au

    That was the spread the whole time I looked at it (from after the news was released). The SSF bid-ask spread was about 15 cents.
     
    #20     Nov 13, 2002