Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. What a bunch of morons. Obviously were going to have to raise rates into a weakening economy
     
    #681     Jul 11, 2008
  2. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    im short at

    114
    115
    116
    117

    (these positions are all open)

    My TP is at 113

    I have calls at 119 bought when ZB was trading at 112



    what you guys reckon of those trades?
     
    #682     Jul 11, 2008
  3. How are the different bond contracts quoted?...if I wanted to get

    into financial futures, whats a good place to start?..I trade forex

    right now.
     
    #683     Jul 11, 2008
  4. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    this thread is about the 30 year bond

    the exchange is ECBOT and the future is ZB

    open an account at interactive brokers or similar.
     
    #684     Jul 11, 2008
  5. tech723

    tech723

    you can start here:

    http://cbot.com/cbot/pub/page/0,3181,1391,00.html
     
    #685     Jul 11, 2008
  6. as spooz rally and the curve does not flatten that tells you that equity rallies are short covering as the REAL MONEY in the world trades US paper and when the ZB and ZN do not tank even after a 35 point rally in spooz (off the low) what does that tell you? Curve steepens as flight to quality is in effect; but no matter what I say my outlook is usually not more than the next 30 seconds to 10 minutes these markets are too volatile hold any positions in. How about that 8$ oil drop in 6 minutes this $hit is crazy!
     
    #686     Jul 15, 2008
  7. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    what 35 point rally

    we still ended the day down
     
    #687     Jul 15, 2008
  8. i meant intra-day, all I know is the ZB could be up or down 2 handles tomorrow I am just getting ready to strap in for the ride. They might jam spooz up for options expiration who knows all I know is that selling rallies in the equity world has been good recently. It seems like in the bondo right now spooz rallies are opportunities for paper to buy dips. This of course could change at any moment, with Bernanke, Paulson, Cox and all of the other $hit (Freddie, Fannie, primary dealers short situation) going on I would not have any size on without options protection right now.
     
    #688     Jul 15, 2008
  9. Surdo

    Surdo

    Spooz bounced 29 handles from the bottom before shitting the bed !

    I keep my finger on the trigger with this volatility, latop in the WC with TT.
     
    #689     Jul 15, 2008
  10. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    no-one trusts these rallies thats why ZB didnt react

    every knew it was just a BS intraday move

    if the spooz is up +30 with only 5 mins before close, then we might get a reaction :)
     
    #690     Jul 15, 2008