Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. Surdo

    Surdo

    Sauteed in butter and a drop of olive oil afterwards, that was a nice round trip in ZB!

    I hate trading next to the stove, I got flour on the keyboard.

    el surdo
     
    #21     Dec 19, 2007
  2. well Richard, you sold right above a major technical indicator. 113.19 was a 61% fib retracement on a daily chart (of the whole move) it seems you stepped in front of a train. I have a short time frame and would not take any heat like that unless I wanted to blow my account out. The recent high was 116.24 that is 94 tics of heat.
     
    #22     Dec 19, 2007
  3. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    trading ZB....

    i have march calls, strike 119

    short futures as it moves up, take profit as it moves down, leave the calls open as protection, if it busts a move past 119, the calls are larger in number than the open futures, so I will break even, if it goes WAY higher (like 125+) will also make a lot of money.

    Entry short every 50c, take profit every $2

    thats what im doing at least.

    already made quite a nice bit from last move to 119 (the move that went STRAIGHT UP SURDO) and then the subsequent fall

    please let it range trade from 114 to 119 until march.

    I'll be a bond pimp by then!
     
    #23     Dec 19, 2007
  4. I don't trade based on indicators. They are of absolutely no value in my opinion. I am in my trade until at least Jan 10 and maybe longer so to me days like today are just noise. Christmas noise anyway.

    Not that I enjoy losing money mind you. This is the first short trade I have taken since May. Days like today should tell us something about the conviction of traders in the bond market. I may be wrong, but I think we are headed south for a spell.


     
    #24     Dec 19, 2007
  5. i think you are right long term, good luck and good trading!
     
    #25     Dec 19, 2007
  6. but i think 3 handles is more than noise,
    lol!
     
    #26     Dec 19, 2007
  7. Surdo

    Surdo

    113 '29 was a major "reversal" signal on my crystal ball system last Fri.

    Happy Trading to all!


    el surdo samba trader

    PS: that was nice *noise* today from 116 '20 to 116.
     
    #27     Dec 19, 2007
  8. Surdo

    Surdo

    Someone needs to cover soon???

    el surdo


    **not referring to the OP....!
     
    #28     Dec 21, 2007
  9. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    well took more profit today

    but im almost unloaded, only 2 contracts left

    please let this thing go back up to 118 so i can short it again

    pretty please


    I'm hoping that dive from 119 was too sudden and we need to go back up and test for a double top
     
    #29     Dec 26, 2007
  10. Surdo

    Surdo

    Nice trade!

    I am not getting much of a warm and fuzzy feeling being long just yet.

    I will take a closer look tonight.

    113 '11 is an important level to hold.

    el surdo
     
    #30     Dec 26, 2007