Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. What is the definition of "significant" for you?
     
    #2441     Jul 1, 2011
  2. I'm sorry, Martinghoul, I should have been clearer.

    HFT is just getting started in stocks here, and lacking first hand experience we only know what we've heard here and there. His concern is if HFT is being done in these contracts to the extent that it makes execution quite difficult when placing orders at Best Bid/Ask 1 to 3. He is not a scalper, and is not placing very large orders. So maybe HFT shouldn't even be a point of concern for him?

    Hope this is clearer, and thank you for your help.
     
    #2442     Jul 1, 2011
  3. Brah, if HFT isn't a concern, your boy can place an order wherever he pleases and expect to get filled if/and when it trades through. That should simplify things a little more. If not, you're engaging the wrong the forum.
     
    #2443     Jul 4, 2011
  4. Newbie question here:
    This afternoon, the 30 year futures (Sept) were rising EVEN THOUGH THE /ES was rising also.

    I thought then the 30 year rises, the /ES falls!

    Why did this happen? Is the ES going to drop Sunday night? Is ZB going to drop sunday night? Or are both going to keep rising.

    If both are going to continue rising, WHY? I thought this wasn't supposed to happen!
     
    #2444     Jul 15, 2011
  5. Anything and everything is possible. There's no rule in the mkt that promises a negative correlation between bonds and equities 100% of the time.
     
    #2445     Jul 16, 2011
  6. willem

    willem

    Today's a good example: ES and ZB are down, ZN is up (10:45am CT). You also need to watch the US$.

    I've found the inverse correlation is strongest for short time periods on events and economic news releases -- jobless claims, GDP, etc. ES and Treasuries immediately go in opposite directions. Usually the 30Y/10Y are good counter-trend plays for a couple of minutes. Otherwise, it's best to watch, but not rely on, the correlation.
     
    #2446     Jul 18, 2011
  7. lol. Whatever happened to this guy?
     
    #2447     Aug 12, 2011
  8. Uh, I don't want to know.
     
    #2448     Aug 12, 2011
  9. Are you still trading, bud?
     
    #2449     Aug 20, 2011
  10. Illum

    Illum

    This Japan sellin? Or more. Important question for me, but I have no access to it. Interventions have been so bad, they are in deep pain. Or is it just an unwind - partial unwind of huge run up. Questions, questions. A nickle for your knowledge master of the universe.
     
    #2450     Aug 24, 2011