Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. YT-
    since the Fed has said they are "data dependent" you as a trader must be as well.
    The next four days
    PPI
    Durable Goods
    New Home Sales
    GDP
    Chicago PMI
    Michigan

    watch and see how the mkt takes in all of this data they are all very important ECONOMIC numbers. Bumbling Ben has no interest in capping inflation since he has to clean up the mess created by the Glass-Steagall Act coming down during Bubba's presidency.
     
    #231     Feb 25, 2008
  2. I agree with you 100%.

    There is a lot of data out and one must keep a close eye on it. Although I have to say I would feel comfortable with a long here. I mean philly index was the worst in years right? Stocks are just rallying on something that will not make a bit of difference in the longer term picture imo.

    What are your thoughts on the long end of the curve as of now?

    Thanks
     
    #232     Feb 25, 2008
  3. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Are you getting these numbers from CBOT.com/CMEgroup.com or somewhere else?

    TIA
     
    #233     Feb 25, 2008
  4. no problem with you getting long the June contract into March expiration I would be very careful getting long a ZB H8 or ZN H8 right now...the downward moves are very violent and when people who are big feel pain (longs) it drops like a rock! The mkt feels like they rally it to get more shorts on; we'll see what the data says and how the stocks respond if and when there is a bailout for Bond insurers.
     
    #234     Feb 25, 2008
  5. Its rare that I read anyone mentioning glass steagall. Terrible idea getting rid of it.
     
    #235     Feb 25, 2008
  6. I get that info from a friend of mine at the cbot who has some contacts in the treasury options pits.

    I don't know anybody personally in those pits.


    InvertedCurve

    I never took into account march expiration. So if I did anything it would for sure be in the june contract. I appreciate the heads up on the violent swings as we come closer to expiration.

    A question: Do all the financials roll at the same time? For instance does the es and zb roll from march to june at the same time?

    Thanks Guys
     
    #236     Feb 25, 2008
  7. will you guys stop trading the 30 year TBond after it goes to the $15.625 tick this coming Sunday?...will you not trade it anymore?
     
    #237     Feb 25, 2008
  8. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    May be wrong but I think ZB/ZN roll earlier than the equity indexes. I never can remember when exactly.
     
    #238     Feb 25, 2008
  9. It sucks but what are ya gonna do? I personally don't day trade the ZB but I would be pissed if I did day trade it. This whole CME Group thing is really turning out bad with the 5 deep book, the tick reductions and the block trades. Talk about squeezing out the small guy. All the exchanges are the same (although I think this is more CME fault than it is the CBOT) they all have problems and if they want to truely keep the retail guy around (maybe they don't) they need to start leveling the playing field.
     
    #239     Feb 25, 2008
  10. smalls

    smalls

    interest rates roll before equities
     
    #240     Feb 26, 2008