Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. benwm

    benwm

    5.1% was the rumour in London
     
    #2311     Dec 8, 2010
  2. sjfan

    sjfan

    What do you mean by 'london'? None of the commentaries I read this morning coming from london desks mentioned anything about this. If this were the case, we'd see FAR bigger action than we have.

     
    #2312     Dec 8, 2010
  3. benwm

    benwm

    It came over the Ransquawk commentary I was listening to this morning during London hours.

    Would that be such a shocker? 4.4% last time.

    And anyway, food inflation is already 10%+, read something a week or so ago that said in reality it's nearer 20%
     
    #2313     Dec 8, 2010
  4. sjfan

    sjfan

    Kind of.... Suvey is 3.3%.

     
    #2314     Dec 8, 2010
  5. benwm

    benwm

    well I'll look a dick tomorrow if it comes in 3.3%

    but I'm just relaying what I heard..they only mentioned it once so it is possible that I misheard?

    I don't think so.
     
    #2315     Dec 8, 2010
  6. m22au

    m22au

    386 pages of posts in this thread, and today is the first time I'm viewing it.

    Congratulations to anyone who has caught the recent downward move in bonds, particularly the 10 yr and 30 yr.

    The thing I love about this is that after Bernanke was made Time Magazine person of the year in 2009, the bond market is suggesting that QE:

    (1) Can't keep long-term interest rates down and
    (2) Might even cause long-term rates to rise

    Out of all of the grey swans
    http://mercenarytrader.com/2010/11/weekender-swan-spotting/

    I thought that the bond market was a concern in the background.

    Clearly in the last couple of days it has moved clearly to the foreground.
     
    #2316     Dec 8, 2010
  7. benwm

    benwm

    Go to http://ransquawk.com/live
    Headlines page 3 near the bottom (08:00)

    It says:-
    08:00 ECONOMIC COMMENTARY Market talk of higher Chinese CPI figure of 5.1% Y/Y vs. Exp 4.7% due to be released tomorrow

    Edit: Just realized you need a login to see that page
    You can sign up for a free trial to view the page, don't need to give any credit card details or anything like that
     
    #2317     Dec 8, 2010
  8. If it's Chinese CPI, I thought it was coming out later this week, rather than tomorrow. Also, BBG consensus is 4.7% YoY.

    I haven't heard of any Chinese selling, but the rumors of the other usual suspects being active abound.
     
    #2318     Dec 8, 2010
  9. benwm

    benwm

    yes, that's right

    the possible RMB revaluation is just my hunch
     
    #2319     Dec 8, 2010
  10. m22au

    m22au

    Can someone with a better knowledge than me of bonds help with a question or two:

    What is the approximate value of 1 tick in bond futures in terms of yield?

    Is there any way I can calculate this for myself?
     
    #2320     Dec 8, 2010