Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. Pravetz

    Pravetz

    Why the stock market and the bond market are going up?
     
    #1681     Sep 11, 2009
  2. Surdo

    Surdo

    More buyers than sellers.

    :D
     
    #1682     Sep 11, 2009
  3. Surdo - you should have charged money for that one! LOL!

    :p
     
    #1683     Sep 11, 2009
  4. Pravetz

    Pravetz

    With cash for both? What are they selling? The USD?
     
    #1684     Sep 11, 2009
  5. smalls

    smalls

    welcome to the twilight zone...
     
    #1685     Sep 11, 2009
  6. dhpar

    dhpar

    10yr will be bid up till next week in order to transfer notes to Fed at higher prices.
    effectively this transfers taxpayers' money to banks in order to recapitalize them - without need of Congress approval - let's call it a Fed scam... :)

    we will likely see a sell-off later next week.
     
    #1686     Sep 11, 2009
  7. 10's getting to upper part of range 3.25 to 4%. right now about 3.30 - bondo getting close to 4% we'll see how far they can push it.
     
    #1687     Sep 11, 2009
  8. dhpar,

    Could you please better elaborate about this mechanism? :confused:
     
    #1688     Sep 12, 2009
  9. dhpar

    dhpar

    it was meant more as a joke but...

    if Fed is buying 10s from the dealers next week (at the market) why would dealers trade 10s down? they will work it up among themselves and offload to Fed - afterwards 10s will revert back to lower levels (in price terms). Therefore Fed is generaly buying high, i.e. potentially making a loss that goes to a taxpayer while recapitalizing the dealers...

    by far i am not a conspiracy guy but this is really not too far fetched imo...

    cheers
     
    #1689     Sep 12, 2009
  10. I am selling EVERYTHING in my equity account tomorrow morning and buying TBT tomorrow fu%k this bull$hit of spooz going up and the long end going up. Fed buybacks they are buying Mortgage paper and not long paper. Obama is printing so much money when interest rates are 8% for a 30 yr fixed in two years I will be vindicated. Why is the ten yr at 3.28-3.30%?! Is the bond really going under 4% I will go down burning all in long TBT.
     
    #1690     Sep 29, 2009