Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. if ZN stays over 28, 117.04 then 117.165

    looks like supply announcement/reopening at 10 am cst scared off some players
     
    #1501     Jul 2, 2009
  2. I just got short at 116 26
     
    #1502     Jul 2, 2009
  3. Not feeling it. Elvis has left the building.

    I am about to get out too.
     
    #1503     Jul 2, 2009
  4. I got this from somewhere on the web over a year ago and it seems to help me a lot.

    13min chart
    21 EMA
    Pivot Point

    if price opens above the pivot and above 21 EMA the initial directions is going to be up.

    if price opens below the pivot and below 21 EMA then the initial direction will be down.

    if price opens in between the pivot and 21 EMA do nothing and wait for a direction indicated by 2 bars closing above/below pivot and 21 EMA.

    again - this is only good for determining initial market direction.

    play at your own risk.
     
    #1504     Jul 2, 2009
  5. NAVEEVIa

    NAVEEVIa

    Hi,
    I am noob trading US bond futures mostly asian session.
    I am using CQG to follow up on cash bonds, BG Cantor data.
    I have a few queries?
    1. During New York session What is the typical spread in 30 yr cash bond, i have observed it to be 2-4 tick wide, e.g currently 9 am GMT today quotes are 97 30.5 & 98 01.5, is this something to do with my data source or is it normal?
    2. Anyone trading Eurex bonds, how do u track cash market , i have used BGCantor EGB & Tullet Sovereign debt on CQG but there is no liquidity, it doesnt seem to move for hours together, any suggestions? how i can track them?

    Good trading to all
    Naveen
     
    #1505     Jul 7, 2009
  6. NAVEEVIa

    NAVEEVIa

    #1506     Jul 7, 2009
  7. Look for the old Solly 'Understanding the Yield Curve' series of papers by Antti Ilmanen. It's one of the best...
     
    #1507     Jul 7, 2009
  8. NAVEEVIa

    NAVEEVIa

    Thank You Martinghoul
    I will look into those papers
    Naveen
     
    #1508     Jul 7, 2009
  9. 30 cash usually 4-5 ticks wide sometimes it is 6-10 ticks wide for hours at a time (during US session) I can't imagine what is looks like during your hours, totally useless. I would try 10 yr cash better indicator. 30 yr cash has been $hit for a while now and there are very few players these days. Eurex Cash only available to Euro land players helps keep Euro banks with an edge. Since you have the cash feed keep up what the 2/10, 2/5, 5/30, 10/30, etc... are doing it will help. Also have the yields up you can see things others can't in real time a great tool. But there really is not a lot of movement during your hours more friendly to someone learning the mkt.
    P.S. Goldman Sith recommended to their clients to go long ZN when it was trading at the 115 handle for a target zone of 118-120. Seems to be working with the spooz sell off we'll see if the spooz break the 872-876 zone which would be a daily chart head and shoulders break could be a quick trip back to 830 which would get a nice reduction in yields but we shall see.
     
    #1509     Jul 7, 2009
  10. 1. I don't know what CQG is, but I am seeing 1.5 - 2 ticks spread in US 30y during NY time.
    2. The EUR/GBP mkts are closed during Asian hours. Nothing trades, so it's no wonder that you're seeing zero liquidity. It only makes sense to look at the EUR mkt between 7AM and 9PM GMT. Again, I don't know anything about CQG.
     
    #1510     Jul 7, 2009