Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    well anyways my logic is if there are big ass rate cuts, at some point inflation fears may temporarily resurface again

    bad for bonds :)

    then a week later, here come recession fears again

    good for bonds :)

    rinse and repeat for 2008 I hope, that would be cool, down up, down up, down up
     
    #121     Jan 18, 2008
  2. Surdo

    Surdo

    down up, down up, down up is a beautiful thing!

    Sherman McCoy is a big player in here too.

    good trading,

    el surdo
     
    #122     Jan 18, 2008
  3. jasonjm

    jasonjm

    you guys see how the stock markets and the 30 year have finally decoupled

    30 year typically would be shooting up on a down market day like this
     
    #123     Jan 18, 2008
  4. Yes, but the ZN has become a whore to the ES.
     
    #124     Jan 18, 2008
  5. bgp

    bgp

    just use the rydex inverse . its easier to hold on.

    bgp
     
    #125     Jan 18, 2008
  6. Hmmm, there is always that, but what would be the point?
     
    #126     Jan 18, 2008
  7. There does definitely seem to be price resistance on the 30 yr. You never know how that ends... It might end in a breakout; who knows (remember the AUD last year when it broke 78-80 ?? but it took a while to do).
     
    #127     Jan 18, 2008
  8. :confused:

    All the markets are manipulated ... and always have been (for our intentes and purposes).

    I don't care what the whales do, I just want to make sure I know what direction they're moving in ... and it continues to be up for the ZN, what a thing of beauty, as another posters said "up down, down up".

    Sweet
     
    #128     Jan 18, 2008
  9. no matter what stocks are doing there is resistance in the treasuries the two yr yield (2.330 as i write this) is at/under inflation that is not good but could be seen as a value sale 4 paper. the bondo ran from 12 to 31 (bought 16's)that was a good move not as much as stocks went down but we got an early close today the rest of the session will be choppy, but intra day trading is back not like the last couple of years where you miss the move and you're done many opportunities to make and lose $ all day. I thought it sucked how the bonds popped 12 ticks after the close yesterday...
     
    #129     Jan 18, 2008
  10. Ronin08

    Ronin08 Guest

    LOL
     
    #130     Jan 19, 2008