Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. bonds feel weak today, but it also feels like a trap is forming down here.
     
    #1121     Feb 12, 2009
  2. harkm

    harkm


    Yields are climbing that wall of worry. If feels very tense to be short bonds right now and they keep falling.
     
    #1122     Feb 13, 2009
  3. Damn. Some bombs being dropped on ZN
     
    #1123     Feb 18, 2009
  4. smalls

    smalls

    you mean fvs, thats where it is starting from. either way its pain in the 10y =\
     
    #1124     Feb 18, 2009
  5. yeah there was a huge seller in 5 yr cash a lot of corporates were priced today including 15 billion+ from Roche. Wicked sell off, tough rally, then sell off again! Lots of opportunities both on the sell and buy side. When the curve gets going you can not fade it or you will feel the pain.
     
    #1125     Feb 18, 2009
  6. smalls

    smalls

    was people rolling to m's as well....
     
    #1126     Feb 19, 2009
  7. Finally we will have 10+10 DOM in a month for interest rates:

    "10-Deep Futures Market Data
    Effective Sunday, March 22, 2009 (trade date Monday, March 23), CME Globex will begin a phased implementation of 10-deep books for futures market data via FIX/FAST on the Market Data Platform. Currently, CME Globex supports a maximum 5-deep book. This functionality will be introduced per product complex as follows:

    Sunday, March 22
    CBOT Commodity futures (channel 111)
    CBOT Equity Index futures (channel 113)
    Sunday, March 29
    CBOT Interest Rate futures (channel 115)
    Sunday, April 5
    NYMEX and COMEX futures (channels 30, 31, 32) "

    [omissis...]
    source: CME Globex Notice Feb 16 2009
     
    #1127     Feb 19, 2009
  8. ten deep is meaningless to me, I would do anything for a full tick in the 30Y though
     
    #1128     Feb 19, 2009
  9. smalls

    smalls

    bond at full tick would be fantastic...
    dom will be good but it may freak outsome as they will see how thin the market really is (maybe it will help the cme to actually do full ticks in 30s though)
     
    #1129     Feb 20, 2009
  10. DOM will help ZN during some number releases. Only full ticks can help the ZB.
     
    #1130     Feb 20, 2009