Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. anyone short the AM cbot seats? current bid is 62k what a fucking joke
     
    #1071     Jan 13, 2009
  2. coolraz

    coolraz

    Well today marked the end of my short the bond experiment. It blew me out for 17k.....

    Don't try to fight the goverment is the moral of the story I guess......although I am not quite sure how they plan to have stocks go up while at the same time keeping bond yields down.....

    good luck to anyone still holdting short, I hope you get a chance to hold it until it reverses!
     
    #1072     Jan 14, 2009
  3. cover your shorts- zb will be 150+ before months end. if markets tank another day or two in a row we'll see a +7 point bond day again.
     
    #1073     Jan 14, 2009
  4. consolidation at 132 on daily chart
     
    #1074     Jan 14, 2009
  5. I was trying paste from my CQG but for some reason ET won't work so here is a link to the chart I was talking about.
    http://cmegroup.com/popup/mdq2.html?code=ZBH9&title=March_2009_30_Year_U.S._Treasury_Bond&type=p

    note the upper consolidation between 140 and 142 before the mini crash where it goes from here who knows I am out at the end of the day and trade what I see most people who tend to have opinions get blown out...especially the last two months one of my friends who made $ selling calls all year was smart to stay out of this last run up.
     
    #1075     Jan 14, 2009
  6. Moe

    Moe


    If it goes to 150 then it might be worth doing some well timed selling at that level with a stop loss right above a near term daily high bar. I would imagine the a good target would be the 133' area or maybe the 135' area for some profit taking on the trade.

    Although after thinking about it some... the tricky part is going to be the timing of the sell entry. And then of course a chance the stops could get run over. But at 150' geez , the yield will be around 2.something%... it's got to be close to the top of this bull move!
     
    #1076     Jan 14, 2009
  7. Surdo

    Surdo

    GOOD LUCK picking the top on this one!
    ZB is a one way monster, and will bankrupt even the most experienced traders. Jump on the train while its moving.

    I think I will convert a few of the Greenbacks I made today to Reais to spend on some Bunda in a few weeks.

    Anybody up for a few sKol in posto 9?
     
    #1077     Jan 14, 2009
  8. coolraz

    coolraz

    What I find interesting is that the govt wants the stock market to go UP and also the long term treasuries to stay up in order to reduce interest rates for borrowers.

    However, isn't this impossible b/c stocks and bonds almost always move inversely?
     
    #1078     Jan 14, 2009
  9. Mav88

    Mav88

    I think all the old rules and intuition is out the window, these are not usual times.
     
    #1079     Jan 15, 2009
  10. dhpar

    dhpar

    you always succeed in "pissing me off" :D
    it is below zero where i am.
    have one capirinha (at least) to northerners.
     
    #1080     Jan 15, 2009