Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. nice bid from TIPS auction 60% direct/indirect bidders highest in a while!
     
    #1051     Jan 6, 2009
  2. I cant believe Iam bullish on these things but Iam. Bonds are in a bubble. I believe this bubble will last longer than 2 months. I bought some out of the money call options on tlt.

    As for the actual 10Y and 30Y markets, they are absolutely destroyed by this lack of liquidity. Its so depressing I went from trading 120 lots in the 30Y to 6 lots in the ten year now. It sucks more than anything has ever sucked before.

    Any other horror stories out there?

    Jesse
     
    #1052     Jan 6, 2009
  3. quick response b4 ADP I used to spread 5 by 50 in the cash market and trade 20-30 lots outright now I trade 1 by 10 in the spread and don't trade more than 4 ZB or 10 ZN but it moves so much you can have a real good or bad day with a few trades so many primary dealers and bank trading desks gone so sad sometimes I trades spooz just to see volume these days but they have become a choppy piece of $hit as well...
     
    #1053     Jan 7, 2009
  4. Mav88

    Mav88

    Please tell me you are kidding, I'm trading 2-3 lots on ZN, but the Best I can hope for is 6-10? I had no idea things were this bad...
     
    #1054     Jan 7, 2009
  5. you can trade as big as you want but with the bid ask 100/120 all day if you trade a 100 lot + and someone sweeps the book with a 2000 lot and you're on the wrong side you just lost 15K+ in a second too much risk. Maybe size will come back one day...The only way to do it right now is to scale into a position.
     
    #1055     Jan 7, 2009
  6. not kidding, You can trade more size, but you cant scalp it. Theres no such thing as short term edge when there is no size behind you.
     
    #1056     Jan 7, 2009
  7. smalls

    smalls

    i have horror stories so bad i tear up just thinking about typing them....

    cme is supposed to show 10 deep soon. that will either

    a) increase desire to show more as i can see whats behind me.

    b) scare the junk out of me because there was NOTHING THERE TO BEGIN WITH!
     
    #1057     Jan 8, 2009
  8. Where did you hear about the 10 deep?
     
    #1058     Jan 8, 2009
  9. smalls

    smalls

    a bird
     
    #1059     Jan 8, 2009
  10. Thanks. How does your bird define soon?
     
    #1060     Jan 8, 2009