Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. it was a reopening; it's 'normal' a low indirect; instead 2.44 as bid to cover ratio is good (above average last 5 auctions).
     
    #1001     Dec 11, 2008
  2. dhpar

    dhpar

    no - 15% is not normal!
    this was the lowest indirect bider participation this year at least (ok there were few bad auction in June but not since)
     
    #1002     Dec 11, 2008
  3. actually indirect % has been 12.7%; however you're correct, it's on more the weak side but this is a reopening and also at the end of the year: look for december 2004-05-06-07 results for a seasonal comparison.
     
    #1003     Dec 12, 2008
  4. 140 handle coming up
     
    #1004     Dec 17, 2008
  5. However you want to do I would get short here I think it is over, buy puts, sell calls, sell futures. A lot of supply coming in Jan.
    P.S. That is if you have not blow out the last month (A lot of firms and people did!) wow! "Bondo" up 23 handles, cash bond up more than that! Two yr yield at 0.725% come on we are not Japan, yet!

    Another point Euro up 22 points not good for our Curve.
     
    #1005     Dec 17, 2008
  6. smalls

    smalls

    either way its going to be a hard sell off.

    with limited liquidity to get out and since when stuff hits the fan the book will become EMPTY (where have all the other market makers gone =\ ).

    will be fun to see the pain of someone pulling 800 lots and having the market eat it only to see them reload and keep pulling it down.
     
    #1006     Dec 17, 2008
  7. Ronin08

    Ronin08 Guest

    The 30yr Bond is going down next week.
     
    #1007     Dec 19, 2008
  8. himself

    himself

    I shorted the 30yr bond futures on Friday and luckily it closed below where I am in (141 12/32).

    I entered a GTC B/E stop.

    [Though I feel I am on the right side of this I was too early shorting Corn and oil this year and they were resulted in losses.]
     
    #1008     Dec 21, 2008
  9. Do you work for Paulson?
     
    #1009     Dec 21, 2008
  10. dr_sean

    dr_sean

    TLT...buying Jan downside and protecting w/ buys of the Jan 127/130 call spread...swinging for the fence on magnitude but worried about the pop over 130...
     
    #1010     Dec 22, 2008