Anybody else short US 30 Bond

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by richard_m, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. the fed won't let these things fall too far, although a retrace to mid 120s is possible..
     
    #991     Dec 8, 2008
  2. You mean like the PPT wouldn't let stocks fall too far? The size of the bond market is such that if enough people start running for the exits even the Fed won't be able to prop up the price.

    And from the looks of it, the long side of the bond trade has gotten pretty crowded near the top with amateurs, which always signals a major turnaround is close by.
     
    #992     Dec 8, 2008
  3. Anyway, last I checked Fannie mae spreads were still gigantic..

    http://www.efanniemae.com/syndicated/documents/mbs/apeprices//archives/cur30.html

    The Friday yield was something like 3.11 on the 30 yr. So thats around 185 basis points spread. Isn't the whole point to make mortgages affordable. I expect the fed to bring that spread back to 50-60bp. (thus the baseline mortgage rate under 4) I thought spread would move rather than the 30yr yield (which has no impact other than to make it easy for the fed govt to raise money on the cheap).
     
    #993     Dec 8, 2008
  4. Nope. They won't

    Buy Dips
     
    #994     Dec 10, 2008
  5. I'd be careful. I don't think any dips from this point are buyable until probably next summer. But that's just my opinion.
     
    #995     Dec 10, 2008
  6. Intraday
     
    #996     Dec 10, 2008
  7. Ah, my mistake. I'm trading on a longer term time frame. Carry on. :D
     
    #997     Dec 10, 2008
  8. nice 18 tick move in ZN up on 20K futures, wtf? 123.06 to 123.245
    I love how they trade size but don't show it.
     
    #998     Dec 11, 2008
  9. nice pop on the auction, F$CKERS!
     
    #999     Dec 11, 2008
  10. dhpar

    dhpar

    terrible auction.
    look at indirect bidders - if this is a new trend then god bless america....
     
    #1000     Dec 11, 2008