Any thoughts on this article?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by shneed, May 28, 2002.

  1. that's rich. that's absolutely rich. and so full of holes...
     
    #101     May 31, 2002
  2. Banjo

    Banjo

    He succumed to arrogance, a lack of respect for the diametrically opposed portion of the equation.
     
    #102     May 31, 2002
  3. Commisso

    Commisso Guest

    Since he is such a "great" trader Chasin why don't you try to invest your money with him... :D
     
    #103     May 31, 2002
  4. Niederhoffer did what a lot a hedgers do which is load up on size to make up for the lower profit potential of a hedged position. Some of those relationships the hedges are built on seem sooo reliable and dependable the trader may think he has a money machine. So what do you do when you really believe you have a money machine? Lever the heck out of it. Sometimes, lightning does strike twice and in truth those hedges are built on correlations, not physical or mathematical laws.
     
    #104     May 31, 2002
  5. not only is he a great trader, he is a great human being.

    a) i trade my own money.
    b) the truly great traders seem to be busy posting critiques of him.
     
    #105     May 31, 2002
  6. Commisso, I have the book in front of me and I can't seem to find your "letter". Do you have a page reference? FWIW, Taleb is not mentioned in the Notes (p. 415), Select Bibliography (p. 423) or Index (p. 429).
     
    #106     May 31, 2002
  7. chas,

    i must agree with you. victor is truly an american hero and has my utmost respect.


    all the best,

    surf:cool:
     
    #107     May 31, 2002
  8. Is that what it's all about to you Chas, getting to the top?

    Who gives a f**k about the top?? And the "top" according to who's definition? Was he the richest? Did he have the best annual percentage return? The best reward to risk ratio? What does it take to reach the top??

    It takes aggressiveness to reach the top? Have you ever wondered where that line about "old traders/bold traders" comes from?

    I trade to reach my own personal financial goals. My goals are definitely "realistic" and achievable (they've been done by other traders thousands of times). The only way I can lose is if my strategies stop working, I can't find new ones, and slowly bleed to death. There's no way I'd blow out on one freak occurance. That would take a stock to move 100 points intraday and me with no way to get out. (Yeah, technically there is a chance of that happening. That's a risk I'll take anyday.)

    I thank my lucky stars every day that there's people that think like you in the markets. Makes it so much easier for the rest of us.

    Daniel
     
    #108     May 31, 2002
  9. I had the same question. I think it must be based on a mark to market on the entire protfolio, not just the change in the positions they put on that day.
     
    #109     May 31, 2002
  10. It seems like this whole deal about Niederhoffer and those who would call him the greatest trader of all time revolves around two issues:

    1) Niederhoffer may be the greatest trader when he is winning.

    2) Niederhoffer may be the worst trader when he is losing.

    It reminds me of the classic basketball matchups between Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell. Some may argue that Chamberlain was the most dominating offensive player of all time. Others may say that Bill Russell was the most effective defender in the game. When it came down to championships, Bill Russell's team always came out on top. Maybe defence is more important than offence?
     
    #110     May 31, 2002