Any potential good news that will support the financials?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by mizhael, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. vikasd


    Biggest beneficiary of M2M is who? AIG or Banks?
    #21     Mar 8, 2009
  2. Financials file for bankruptcy, and banks are nationalized, many bankers are jailed when they discover shady practices?

    Until such scenario arrives (if), it's safe to invest in financials.
    #22     Mar 8, 2009
  3. It is more than just financials. Look at every major sector in the S & P using any technical analysis method and every thing is in the crapper. All are blinking buy signals for a short term rally. For example RSI (14) is at 28.90 on the daily XLF.

    But these indicators don’t mean anything. What every one is looking for is the catalyst that turns these markets around. Instead we may drift around all this coming week going lower and the following weeks. Bad news may knock us down more.

    But the stage is set to jump higher. That is why so many traders are covering shorts. That is why I did.

    Listen to Nervesasteel. We will go right back down quickly if Obama does not soon get toxic assets out of banks. This is the only way to stabilize these markets. Everything depends on secure viable financial markets.
    #23     Mar 8, 2009
  4. vikasd


    They are not flashing buy signals. S&P is expected to report $33/sh in earnings (as reported). In a bear market you can expect 9-11x earnings. Currently we are trading at 21x expected earnings.
    #24     Mar 8, 2009
  5. Vikasd. Sorry but I did mention a thing about earnings. The post was not about earnings. I don’t care about earnings. Earnings are irrelevant right now because you could not get two in a thousand economists to agree on the same number at this point.

    This market has been moving up and down on technical information because earnings are irrelevant. Support and resistance are the primary method of market movement each day. There is not much more to go on.

    My post was about indicator technical analysis which most traders are familiar with. The buy signal I referred to is from any indicator you pick. They are all over sold. Using indicators at the highest level, sectors, I was pointing out is every one of them in this market is oversold not just financial.
    #25     Mar 8, 2009
  6. vikasd


    Ok, agreed earnings picture is very foggy and we don't know what it will be.

    Technically speaking, we are below the support levels from 96. We need to retrace back to 94 i.e. 450-500 area on SPX.

    Financials will rally on if some private investor or foreign bank buys an equity stake. By default we are heading to nationalization.
    #26     Mar 8, 2009
  7. Any potential good news that will support the financials?

    Yes, they can only go to zero :D
    #27     Mar 8, 2009
  8. vikasd


    Details on the bad bank + M2M suspension. That way banks can get rid of the toxics at a price which is non-zero.
    #28     Mar 8, 2009
  9. That is only good news....for the financials....and screws the rest of us taxpayers who have to pick up the tab for the banks' if you include the beheading of the banksters with that...then that would be good news...I am NOT joking!

    #29     Mar 8, 2009
  10. vikasd


    Tax payers have to foot the bill whether banks stay private (with bailout) or nationalized. If banks stay private, at least the job bleeding will stop. With nationalization, our banks will be as efficient as the security line on the airport.
    #30     Mar 8, 2009